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I mentioned this in the Windows 8 thread, but since it's an issue that covers both thread topics I have put it here also. As you know, when you install an update that is on Windowsupdate in LDR only mode, the update still shows in Windowsupdate although the size might be slightly different, as you expect it to download the GDR components. However, this is NOT the case. If you download the update, it does not download the full update, or even the GDR components, it just downloads a modified version of the manifest files (security catalogues, the individual manifest files, and the update.mum, update-bf.mum files, but NO program/dll etc files. The update.mum file is then used, the result being it not shown in Windows update and you don't have the GDR files installed. The files download as, for example for Windows 8, windows8-rt-kb2742614-x64-express.cab, this update if it were on Windows 7 will probably be something like (example only!) windows6.1-kb2742614-x64-express.cab. These download to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download into individual folders and are extracted at that location. You just need the express cab files (you can quickly gather them all using the search function in Explorer). The files in this folder can safely be deleted, so you can start with a clean slate each time. I believe this is the case with Windows 7 too, but I need someone to confirm this. If it pans out to be true, Pointzero and McRip just need to upload the express cabs to their WU satisfaction folders, and I'll need to do a fair bit of work to my installer, but monthly changes to it just for the WU satisfaction lists would no longer be necessary. I should point out that even though the express cabs are just manifest files, some of them are a couple of megabytes. Still, the principle is to reduce the presence of unnecessary files on the system, and this achieves just that! I need someone to go through the process of confirming the above for Windows 7. They do not need to do much, just: ensure that under 'change settings' in Windowsupdate, that the option 'Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them' is selected install this months updates using the v28 installer, making sure all previous updates are already installed (as in, Windowsupdate wasn't showing anything until this patch Tuesday) reboot delete everything in the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download folder run Windowsupdate, select just the Windows updates (for simplicity for the moment, Office etc can be installed later) click install, and just as it says it is preparing the updates, click on stop go to the 'C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download' folder, and in the top right hand corner of Explorer where you have the search function (assuming you haven't completely disabled it, there is misinformation about this online) type in *.cab let me know if the filenames are as the above example, with the -express suffix My installer won't install the express cabs currently. Keep in mind that the only function of these cabs are to satisfy Windowsupdate, so not having them installed straight away will in no way affect the functioning of your computer. Thanks!
I should point out that at first glance, the need to download more files seems pointless, but like I said, the difference is the express cabinets have no functional GDR/LDR files in them. Since we have the LDR versions of the updates installed, installing the GDR version of the express cab will not install inactive GDR .dll, .exe etc files in your WinSxS folder (highly preferable). This to me, makes sense!
Burf, your timing is good because I just completed a vbox install Monday that has all of McRip's updates and the KUC run against it, which left me a clean MS Update as of Monday before the new stuff was released. I will test your stuff now after another cup of coffee
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I want to make sure I am doing this correctly... do I create a folder with just the new updates from McRip and then run your v28 installer from that folder?
I did create a folder with just the new updates and then afterwards when running the updater I see you had an option to manage that
Sadly I don't maintain it anymore. My private life drew the short straw that's why I had to abandon some projects. But if you need a copy I would give it to you. You just had to accommodate it by yourself.
I followed your instructions and ran the installer with LOGGING ON, SMART UPDATE ON and 12 MSU updates found, Here goes: Here's what showed after I ran your installer (I did NOT select MSRT) View attachment 22697 View attachment 22699 Here's what showed up when I stopped the MSU install: View attachment 22698 Hope that helps
I definitely understand ...I would definitely appreciate that and I would love to see if I can do it. Thanks