Windows 7 Hotfix repository

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by SoLoR, May 22, 2010.

  1. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    parapher MDL Senior Member

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    #9122 parapher, Mar 15, 2014
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    I sure had WU offer a lot of updates after using the latest batch of updates (x64). I had 20 important updates and like 25 optional ones (this is in a VM). We don't do WU Satisfy but it seemed a bit disconcerting to see how many there are being offered. But when I looked closer at all the updates offered, I realized the majority that WU offered were actually present in the current batch of updates, but had not applied according to WU; this is because I installed them with LDR>GDR script. So in fact, the only updates offered by WU that were not part of the current batch of updates are:

    Code:
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    2446710 (and 3 other .NET 3.5.1 updates I couldn't make out in my screenshots)
    2610339
    2667402
    2676562
    2813347
    2862966
    2868725
    2798162
    2904266
    
    optional:
    
    2858725
    (2 kernel-mode & driver mode Framework 1.11 updates, not sure about kb numbers)
    2545698
    2547666
    2574819
    2592687
    2761217
    2830477
     
  3. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    .cab support maybe? What are the filenames for the .cab files? If you have service pack 1 installed, there are only 4 update since so this shouldn't be an issue.

    I'm trying to get people away from using the .msp's, since the filenames are the same regardless of whether it's Office 2010 or 2013, x86 or x64. It's common people try and use the installer on the wrong .msp's. If I didn't have it as silent install, people would be aware, but it would also mean a lot of popup install windows etc. Furthermore, even on the correct Windows there may be some updates not applicable to their system, so having them show and error boxes appear would confuse people (and take away from the automation). This is particularly true for language .msp's etc.

    The .msp extraction for the old repository was actually my idea :p, but at the time it was suitable for the old repository type. The new repository type and method it really isn't required.
     
  4. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    2014/03/17

    Added:
    2831206-v2

    Removed:
    2831206
     
  5. sgegreen

    sgegreen MDL Novice

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    New KUC removes KB2849470 but WU requires this security update (rpchttp.dll, rpcrt4.dll 6.1.7601.22380). KUC requires KB2916915 (rpchttp.dll, rpcrt4.dll 6.1.7601.22550) which should supersede KB2849470.
     
  6. pegasus80

    pegasus80 MDL Senior Member

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    Are you sure about KB2849470 being required by WU? I installed KB2916915 in LDR branch & WU is ok with it.
     
  7. digital john

    digital john MDL Senior Member

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    no, i don't have sp1 yet.
    is there a tool can convert msp, exe to cabs?
    i tried wintool kit & windows hotfix downloader
     
  8. sgegreen

    sgegreen MDL Novice

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    Most of the PCs I support use GDR updates only, so I don't use KUC's Force LDR option.
     
  9. tistou77

    tistou77 MDL Expert

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    KB2863374 superseded by KB2927111
    KB2876644 superseded by KB2916915
     
  10. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    The very nature of the repositories (Komm's and our direct referencing repository) is that the LDR versions are used, where available. The GDR updates, even in hotfixes, only contain the previous security and general release changes, and the issue that affects that current KB article. The LDR updates contain the GDR update contents, in addition to all previous hotfix updates. By not using LDR, your system would lie somewhere between a standard updated machine and a 'fully updated' machine. If you install one hotfix that replaces an existing hotfix on the system, the LDR version is used, unless you specifically only install the GDR version directly. Yes, you can force GDR as well! The update system for Windows 8/8.1 is a little different, and still a little messy. There are no LDR versions in Windows 8/8.1 apart from one for NET Framework. It's probable that Windows 8/8.1 run the equivalent of LDR updates (fully cumulative) by nature. This is possibly why there are fewer updates (all things considered), not because there are significantly less issues, but because what would have normally been released as hotfixes are included in those large update packs they have been doing (even if they haven't stated so). This is both a good and bad thing. It's good because more people will be close to being 'fully updated', but it's bad because it possibly means fewer hotfixes in between.
     
  11. sgegreen

    sgegreen MDL Novice

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    There's something odd with the KB2916915 hotfix. It has both GDR and LDR files, but in GDR mode it does not completely replace KB2849470. KB2876644 appears to only contain LDR files. On my laptop I currently have rpcrt4.dll 6.1.7601.18205 from KB2849470 and rpchttp.dll 6.1.7601.18350 from KB2916915. KB2876644 was installed prior to running the latest KUC. KUC said it was replaced by KB2916915 and removed it, but then WU insisted that KB2849470 was required, presumably for the GDR files.

    I support a lot of PCs used in domestic and small business environments where most users rely on WU, but I need to keep up with hotfixes that address less-reported issues such as KB2903025. KUC allows me to keep up to date with hotfixes I can safely recommend to the non-KUC users I support.
     
  12. DJAlik

    DJAlik MDL Novice

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