Hey thanks for the reply, but I still dont understand why my updates arent downloading. Also, I need to know if i should manually install updates now that windows7 isint fetching them for me? Is using the WHdownloader a safe way to do this? I used Daz Load 2.2.2. My system has been fetching its own updates for months now. What has changed?
As stated in my post above, Windows is not downloading updates anymore. It just hangs. I have not manually installed anything as I am still wondering if this is safe or not? I have tried manually installing KB3172605 July 2016 Rollup to speed things up, but a window dialog saying 'Searching for Updates on this Computer' andit just hangs searching forever.
This list of updates have been expired for Windows 7/Windows 7 64 bit/Windows 2008 R2 on January 12, 2017. This seems to have fixed the slow scanning without the need for manual installs up front like KB3020369/KB3172605 KB2567053 KB2617657 KB2639417 KB2641653 KB2660465 KB2709162 KB2718523 KB2731847 KB2761226 KB2778344 KB2778930 KB2779030 KB2808735 KB2829361 KB2850851 KB2876315 KB2883150 KB2893984 KB2913602 KB2930275 KB3000061 KB3002885 KB3013455 KB3034344 KB3057839 KB3070102 KB3095649
They are old updates which already superseded by various updates before 2016 what @ch100 mean is that their metadata is removed and no longer pushed to WU/WSUS and they are not available for download anymore in MU catalog
You look at the Synchronizations under the Expired Updates column and where you see a large number, double click on the specific one to see the report. I copied the KBs manually from the report, few of them apply only to 64-bit version, which means Windows 7 64-bit and Server 2008 R2. Also when updates are expired, they automatically move into the Declined section. If you are interested in understanding WSUS better, check for anything written by Lawrence Garvin anywhere on the Internet. He sadly died unexpectedly not long ago.
It is a bit complicated to detail each of them. But if you check either WSUS or Microsoft Catalog, you will actually see the relationships between them. I briefly checked and I found that there are few of them being part of longer chains of supersedence, some of them in the middle of those long chains, some superseding each other. The net effect of expiring updates belonging to longer supersedence chains is that the calculations performed as part of Windows Update by svchost.exe are much lighter and as such the performance is dramatically improved. Saying that, you would still be better off by installing an optimised Windows Update agent like the one contained in KB3172605 or if you don't trust some of the components inside, then the next best is KB3138612, but this is not as good as KB3172605.
For those using WSUS, this means they are automatically expired, and as such invisible. A similar mechanism may be used at WU, as I was able to find an invisible SCEP Engine upgrade not long ago on the download servers, by having the URL sniffed previously. In WSUS the admin has the luxury to decline manually whatever needs to be and as such a well maintained WSUS server should have never had the slow scanning issue. Only that most admins either do not do maintenance, or simply do not have a clue about the slow scanning issue.
Hi, after installing on windows 7 all the security only updates: oct 2016: KB3192391 nov 2016: KB3197867 dec 2016: KB3205394 jan 2016: KB3212642 ie11: kb3210694 the Security Monthly Quality Rollup KB3212646 still appears after checking for windows updates. Is this normal? Thanks
It will always show the Quality Rollup even if you install the security only. Uncheck it and right click on it then select "Hide".
Hi, thanks, I did that, and after hiding all Quality Rollups, some old updates showed up: (my last checking for updates on this machine was on june 2016) KB3182203 (time zone) KB3168965 (windows kernel mode) KB3185319 (ie11) but the Microsoft Update Catalog says it is superseeded by Security Only updates of december, november and october already applied on my system?????
I think it is normal. I am not installing the Security Only updates, but they are only a subset of the Monthly Rollups. Security Only are normally installed outside of Windows Update and compared to a master list like Wsusscn2.cab and not with Windows Update for compliance and full patching.