Windows 7 Image Updater - SkyLake\KabyLake\CoffeLake\Ryzen Threadripper

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  1. LittlePro

    LittlePro MDL Senior Member

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    #621 LittlePro, Aug 22, 2019
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    @Arctucas : Hi,

    1. Make two new folders on additional USB disk / Pen drive with other names & assign them for 'Temporary Directory' & 'Scratch Directory'. You can always change them from NTLite > File > Settings. ( Its not compulsory to give them name Temp & NLTmpScratch ! )

    2. At least you should be able to load the extracted untouched M$ Win 7 ISO. Did you extract the two ISOs with 7 Zip or other archivers ? Make two new folders with other names & extract Win 7 Customized ISO & Untouched ISO to them.

    3. After doing 1 & 2, start afresh with NTLite.

    Warning : While naming those folders take care that only alphabets are used in their name & no special characters or space in between!

    ( I think the additional drive has Windows To Go files / Installation which is / are conflicting. So, I suggested changing names. No names would be obstructive, provided the warning is taken care of! If it still does not work, copy your Important files from the drive to a safe place. Then Format, Partition & Repeat afresh )

    Let me know.


    Thanks & Regards. ...
     
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  2. LittlePro

    LittlePro MDL Senior Member

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    @Arctucas : If you follow above & still problems, then use your internal disk ( RAID0 Array ) for Temporary Directory, Scratch Directory & ISOs extractions. May be the speed required for the functions is not enough on / for an USB disk or Pen drive!
     
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  3. Arctucas

    Arctucas MDL Novice

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    OK, I used my USB-connected external nvme drive and got the untouched .iso to load, but the modded .iso (created per the the instructions set forth in this thread by the OP, and what I used to install my current W7 OS), will not load, no matter what.

    Currently, I am doing some stress testing on the processor after de-lid/re-lid.

    I will get back to the RAID issue later.

    Thanks
     
  4. LittlePro

    LittlePro MDL Senior Member

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    1. It's possible that an ISO, customized by various tools & methods, does not load in NTLite. But an untouched Windows ISO ( Win 7 & Above ) will always load if it is all well.
    2. If you had shared the missing drivers / devices names & exported hardware list under RAID0 Array configuration, I would have been able to make an ISO. It would have helped others at least!

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  5. Arctucas

    Arctucas MDL Novice

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    #625 Arctucas, Aug 26, 2019
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    firmware missing
    system firmware missing
    network adapters missing
    intel i210 gigabit network connection missing
    storage controllers partial
    usb attached scsi (uas) mass storage device missing
    system devices partial
    acpi processor aggregator missing
    microsoft basic display driver missing
    microsoft basic render driver missing
    microsoft uefi-compliant system missing
    standard power management controller missing
    other devices partial
    base system device missing
    ethernet controller missing
    network controller missing
    pci data aquistion signal processing controller missing
    pci device missing
    pci device missing
    pci device missing
    pci device missing
    pci simple communications controller missing
    pci simple communications controller missing
    universal serial bus controllers partial
    asmedia usb 3.1 extensible host controller-1.10 (microsoft) missing
    generic super speed usb hub missing
    generic super speed usb hub missing
    generic super speed usb hub missing
    generic usb hub missing
    generic usb hub missing
    generic usb hub missing
    generic usb hub missing
    usb root bub (usb 3.0) missing
    usb root bub (usb 3.0) missing
    usb root bub (usb 3.0) missing

    I did not list anything that was 'found'.

    Hardware list.
     

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  6. Jimmy123

    Jimmy123 MDL Novice

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    Hi everyone

    i am trying to install windows 7 prof on my new mini PC, with an intel gemini lake processor

    with this excellent ISO i succeeded in installing it on 2 other mini PC's

    but for some reason this install always stops at the windows logo screen

    so i can install windows 7, but when it restarts it shows the windows logo and then freezes

    what am i doing wrong?

    thanks for help

    Jimmy
     
  7. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Check your UEFI firmware. Looks like it is a "Generation 3" UEFI, without special support* for Windows 7. Try to find something named CSM (Compatibility Support Module) and enable it. Make sure Secure Boot is off (Windows 7 doesn't support it).

    If the primary hard disk (the one for booting) is 2TB or smaller, you can also enable legacy BIOS emulation mode (booting with MBR, not GPT).


    *Windows 7 does not have complete UEFI support, it lacks GOP (for graphics support during boot). The firmware must emulate legacy INT10 BIOS graphics, and if it doesn't, boot will freeze at the logo.
     
  8. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Nothing to do with USB at all. If the UEFI firmware is Class/Gen3 and does not have any CSM, booting Windows 7 is not possible. Windows 7 requires INT10 BIOS graphics emulation.

    The USB3 issues can be solved, the GOP issue most certainly not.
     
  9. Atak_Snajpera

    Atak_Snajpera MDL Member

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    If your BIOS does not have CSM/Legacy mode then it is a GAME OVER.
     
  10. Jimmy123

    Jimmy123 MDL Novice

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    Thanks for all your help !!

    forgive me if my english is poor.

    my native language is Dutch

    Indeed it looks like CSM is nowhere to be found

    my BIOS is an American Megatrends, Intel Aptio Setup utility

    secure boot is disabled from the factory, and greyed out, impossible to enable if you would want to

    fastboot is enabled

    COULD WINDOWS 8.1 WORK ??

    it is a cheap mini PC i purchased specially for experiments

    Everything is better than WIN 10

    these upgrades tn new builds are a nightmare

    on a few occasions they killed programs i need for work

    they work fine, and the day after a new build, they stop working

    i am tired of fighting WIN 10 every 6 months
     
  11. Jimmy123

    Jimmy123 MDL Novice

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    on my old work PC i had WIN XP for 12 years

    never had ONE crash

    never had PC virus

    never had a hack in my system

    it was stable and always worked

    every single one of my programs worked

    without a hiccup

    WIN 10 is an huge step backward

    a methode to make your customers spend money

    on new software...

    on new hardware, etc

    on WIN 10 i had many crashes, BSOD etc

    software stops working after an update, etc

    makes you want to throw PC out of window

    PLUS it is a lot slower

    IF YOU COULD MAKE WIN 7 WORK ON NEW HARDWARE, IT WOULD FLY

    it have win 7 on one PC with i7 7500U and it flys

    starts up in like 10 sec

    Jimmy
     
  12. Atak_Snajpera

    Atak_Snajpera MDL Member

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    There is crazy solution.
    Install Linux
    Create virtual machine
    Install Win7 on virtual machine ;)

    It may sound crazy but if you have Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX then this also solves performance issues with native windows scheduler! This trick also fools windows that 2990WX is working in UMA mode instead of 4 NUMA nodes.
     
  13. Jimmy123

    Jimmy123 MDL Novice

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    Yes, i thougt of that
    but my mini PC is not powerful enough for virtualbox and running 2 OS simultanously
    maybe WIN 8??
    somehow??
     
  14. Atak_Snajpera

    Atak_Snajpera MDL Member

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    But you won't be running anything on linux. I'm sure you can prepare some stripped down linux just for hosting virtual machine. I'm also sure you can fully automate booting to win7 on virtual machine.
     
  15. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    The restrictions we discussed are ONLY for Windows 7. Windows 8.x fully supports UEFI, GOP, USB3 and Secure Boot.

    Secure Boot might have to be enabled by loading the default keys (it must be an option in the UEFI, like "Load default keys" or "Load system keys").
     
  16. CEW

    CEW MDL Senior Member

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  17. Arctucas

    Arctucas MDL Novice

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    Apparently, no further help is forthcoming.

    Sad...
     
  18. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Expert

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  19. younoknowme

    younoknowme MDL Novice

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    im experiencing something strange, with this tool my mouse and keyboard both work perfectly for setup but soon as it gets to the windows 7 setup screen where you enter your name and password they stop working, any ideas? i do have a z390 motherboard with a 9900k, maybe there is a way to make windows use whatever driver the setup uses?