Windows 7 on newer machines

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by gordo999, Sep 18, 2023.

  1. James Bond 007

    James Bond 007 MDL Member

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    So you are the author of the APU scanout fix driver on Github ?

    If you have a fix for the problem, I will certainly be interested in testing it. My system (4600G / B550M K) is currently disconnected but I shall find time to test it again once your purported fix is available.
     
  2. SaiSoffu

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    That's certainly nice to hear. I have been working for the past few weeks attempting to get Windows 7 to play well with a Cezanne processor(5800U), so I would very much like to see, if you are the author of the scanout fix, that is:p
     
  3. h r x

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    #103 h r x, Sep 5, 2026
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    Not sure if it actually works. I have released a new version. It is only tested on 5500u and 5825u,and it seems that it may need patches for different ids.

    Not sure if it actually works. I have released a new version. It is only tested on 5500u and 5825u,and it seems that it may need patches for different ids. 4600g is another id

    Not sure if it actually works. I have released a new version. It is only tested on 5500u and 5825u,and it seems that it may need patches for different ids.
     
  4. James Bond 007

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    #104 James Bond 007, Sep 6, 2026
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    Different ids as in different CPUs and/or different integrated graphics hardware? If so this will be troublesome, the work to make this work with all possible CPUs will be difficult and overwhelming.

    I shall find time to test it later, and I would have a strong interest in seeing this work if I were to own a laptop with a suitable Ryzen CPU. But since I don't own such a laptop, if it doesn't work I don't really mind too much. I have made Windows 7 x64 and Windows 8.1 x64 work on my hardware with a supported discrete graphics card and I shall use that if it is really necessary.
     
  5. h r x

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    I should clarify my previous wording. The current patch is not actually tied to a specific CPU or PCI device ID.

    The 5500U (164C) and 5825U (15E7) have different PCI IDs, but both are already using the same desktop/surface handling rule successfully. The patch identifies the relevant allocation/surface characteristics rather than simply checking the CPU model or device ID.

    So a different PCI ID does not necessarily mean that a new patch is required. The 4600G is simply untested at the moment. If it exhibits a different failure mode or uses a different display path, additional work may be needed, but it may also work with the existing rules.
     
  6. James Bond 007

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    I have tested your updated version on my B550M K / Ryzen 5 4600G running Windows 7 x64, and unfortunately the result was the same, either via the HDMI port or DisplayPort (using a DP-to-VGA adapter). After installing the driver and restarting, the screen just went black following the appearance of a white screen. But this time I could not even shutdown the system by pressing the power button and the keyboard was also unresponsive. I had to power off the system by holding down the power button.
     
  7. canonkong

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    I will try to get 4000 series cpu to test and fix it. 164C/1638/15E7 already work well now.
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  8. James Bond 007

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    If you can come up with a fix I am certainly looking forward to testing it.

    As I have said before, I have already gotten the system to run Windows 7 x64 with a GTX 750 Ti with the help of your ACPI fix (and Windows 8.1 x64 works directly). So I am in no hurry. Please take your time.
     
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  10. SaiSoffu

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    Based on what I could find(amateurishly) regarding Cezanne laptop CPUs...CSM does not seem to be an option that can be usable, at least, I can't figure it out.

    So does use CSM or otherwise on a UEFI-only system, such as with the 5850U or 5800Uo_O?
     
  11. canonkong

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    I flashed the mod bios,make it have CSM function.
     
  12. andrew89

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    I wonder how many people are still using Windows 7 in 2026.
     
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    We have successfully modified the driver, and now it can work well in no csm mode. F45F66E6-14AB-4281-BFA9-FE5C6403B28B.png
     
  15. James Bond 007

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    That should be useful for laptops which do not have CSM (at least not without flashing a modded BIOS), if it actually works, that is.

    For desktop systems like mine, I shall stick with CSM mode with Windows 7 / Windows 8.1 (and Windows 10).

    I don't see an updated version of the driver at the Github site. Is it still under testing right now?
     
  16. canonkong

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