Windows 7 "Platinum"

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by kebabstorm, Nov 4, 2023.

  1. JKDC

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    This was in the Win 7 thread booting without CSM.
     
  2. Alexandros C. Couloumbis

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    #42 Alexandros C. Couloumbis, Jan 9, 2024
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  3. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

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  4. maargueb

    maargueb MDL Member

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    Thank you
    Can you explain the use of the tool with a video or pictures?
     
  5. StrangeMushroom

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    Just out of curiosity are there any special instructions for using the final ISO?

    I followed the readme and created an iso, made a usb with it, installed it to a spare pc - an old ivy bridge dell precision I have. Asked for a serial on boot (wasnt sure if it was supposed to or not, just wasnt sure if it was meant to skip it or you ignore it), fine, i install Handbrake 1.3.3 to it because i needed to use this computer to transcode video, and I kept getting errors about not having .NET 4.8. But that's listed as included in the install... soo... there isnt something I have to do to enable or make the built in stuff work?

    Perhaps it's a problem with this PC, i'm just trying to verify that i'm not missing something.
     
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  7. timmy13456

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    make a 32 bit version
     
  8. kebabstorm

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    #48 kebabstorm, Jan 25, 2024
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    @StrangeMushroom:
    It isn't supposed to ask for serial, and it is supposed to have .NET 4.8.
    It seems something went wrong with the ISO creation.
    Maybe you used the original non-updated ISO to make the usb, instead of the new updated one?

    To be clear, the tool doesn't touch your original "en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso" file, it stays as-is, and you shouldn't make the USB with that.
    Instead the tool creates a new "en_windows_7_enterprise_with_sp1_x64_dvd_updated.iso" file, that is the one you should use.

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    Regarding UEFISeven etc.

    I hope I could integrate UEFISeven and the ACPI mods (fix A5 error for machines which have Win7 incompatible BIOS) at some point but currently I don't have any machine which can't support Win7 to test these solutions so I haven't been able to do it.
    For now you need to apply those fixes manually if needed.

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    About 32-bit:

    Since 64-bit x86_64/AMD64 architecture has been around since 2003, the processors that are that old and can't support 64-bit are more Windows XP era and Windows 7 wouldn't run very well on them anyway.

    And I would imagine processors (and motherboards) from before 2003 which are still in working condition would be pretty hard to come by nowadays. And if you had one, I think WinXP would run much smoother on such retro-computers while Win7 is a stretch.

    So, is there really a need for this? I'm curious as to why? Is there some use case for Win7 32-bit (x86) which I'm completely unaware of?
     
  9. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Expert

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    Literally a handful of programs that for some reason don't play well with 64bit 7.
     
  10. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Reverse your questions....

    Given 32bit is generally faster, and takes roughly 1.6x less storage and ram to accomplish the same tasks, and given PAEpatch easily workarounds the artificial 3GB barrier, is there any reason to use W7 x64?

    At least Win8+ has HyperV, and W10+ has WSL, deduplication, WSA... Which are 64bit only, but W7? You loose the 16 bit compatibility, you gain nothing...
     
  11. AaronK2023

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    Interesting question - of the several reports and videos comparing both versions (that I've seen), 64bit still won in almost all applications speedwise.
    The missing 16bit support remains a sore spot tho.
     
  12. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    #52 acer-5100, Jan 26, 2024
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    For sure there are a number of apps that can take advantage of 64bit (multimedia transcoding/encoding, file compression, math simulation and so on) but they are a tiny minority for a "normal" user.

    But given how the 64bit support is implemented in Windows, everything is (roughly) 1.6 larger than x86, so you have to load/save/move from disk and RAM 1.6 times more data, which in turn means that most app takes more to start in x64 which nullifies any supposed or real x64 advantage.

    The slower your HDD and RAM are the more pronounced is the effect. All in all we can say that in average there is no x64 advantage, and often x86 wins, especially on older machines.

    Most of the legend of x64 being faster than x86 was in part the normal hype about a new tech, in part because XP64 was way faster than XP32, and that (at the time) fooled most people (me included) to think x64 was vastly superior.

    The truth is that XP64 was faster not because it was 64 bit, but because xp64 is windows 5.2 while xp32 is windows 5.1, they are two different generation NOT the same system compiled for different architectures.

    If you turn Server 2003 x86 (which is 5.2) in what I call XP52, the difference disappears.

    But you know after the genie is out of the bottle...
     
  13. AaronK2023

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    #53 AaronK2023, Jan 26, 2024
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    Hope you keep on doing what you are doing. Too easy to get distracted by folks wanting this or that. If they feel the need to go in a different direction, let them take the ground work you provided and build their own variant. That after all, is how innovation takes place.

    And btw, thanks for making your effort available. Am looking forward to trying it out.
     
  14. ThaCrip

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    #54 ThaCrip, Jan 28, 2024
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    I assume it's not a real problem if 'sfc /scannow' has errors it can't fix? ; there's no errors during ISO creation.

    I noticed it seems to consistently do that after clean installation not just on this but even with the one I used to use (i.e. 'Integrate7' from former user 'wkeller', which I used the official x64 SP1 Pro ISO as a base) and I think even official stock ISO. I don't notice any obvious issues though with general usage so far.

    but in the past when I did have the errors after running 'sfc /scannow' it was fine after that (as it fixed the errors, I rebooted, then re-ran the 'sfc /scannow' and there are no longer any errors) with the 'Integrate7' made ISO etc.
     
  15. Hatah

    Hatah MDL Novice

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    Thank you so much for this, Win 7 runs so fast on all 3 of my Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 2 from 2015, this is exactly what I needed.

    One issue I have - Brave Browser crashes immediately every time I open youtube.com, tried incognito mode as well. I tried this release: v1.46.144. It runs fine on my other Win 7 Dell SFF desktop without a problem. Any suggestions?
     
  16. nisutuk

    nisutuk MDL Novice

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    Brave stopped supporting wins7.
    try thorium windows 7 (chrome base).
     
  17. E.G.G.M.A.N.

    E.G.G.M.A.N. MDL Novice

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    Is 490322d27e00511a7fa28e8ef45cb2d8105ec272a9c0df2b890766eb7f41c0fe the right SHA256 hash for win7platinum_tool_2023-12-12.7z?
     
  18. robertosanch

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  19. robertosanch

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  20. ThomasMann

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    #60 ThomasMann, May 12, 2024
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    After three months with Win 11 I have decided to go back to Win 7. I have a clone of my old installation, but I would like to find out if your Platinum das more advantages...

    Is it possible for a digital half-wit like myself to handle the necessary computer work?
    I, f.e. failed to get Win 7 on one SSD, and Win11, on another SSD working on this desktop. I failed because no one pointed out to me, that all the examples given, are for installation of the two OSs on two separate partitionsoin the same disk.
    What I wanted was the two SSDs installed and after switching on being asked which of the two should be started----

    Given this, many months long experience, will I be able to handle your Platinum installing?