Windows 7 SP1 RTM 7601.17514.101119-1850 leaked

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by torko26, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    I think the exe is rtm but the iso is not, anyhow what your saying is true but I haven't seen any torrents except wzt's that say "rtm" the others just say "sp1"....................
     
  2. orbidia

    orbidia MDL Junior Member

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    So if the SP1 is final RTM, BUT the integrated SP1 Isos are not the final ISOs does this mean that the integrated ISO could install something which would identify them as not being actual final RTM?

    What I mean is: In the future, will microsoft be able to look at the Windows folder and see that this was the WZOR version and then through windows update make it an evaluation copy?

    That would be really annoying. Maybe this is a kind of trap by Microsoft to screw everyone over in a few months when all of the WZOR versions suddenly become evaluation versions. WOOPS!
     
  3. lunar21

    lunar21 MDL Addicted

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    If the ISOs are not from MS, then why is Wzor saying the are??? Wzor has not lied to us yet, in fact he has been about 99% correct with his reports. I think if he says this is the real ISO made by MS, then these are the real ISOs.
     
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  4. tomorrow

    tomorrow MDL Addicted

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    Do you even realize what you´re saying?

    If the .exe (what you believe to be RTM) updates SP0 to buildstring 7601.17514.101119-1850 and the integrated ISO has the same builstring how can the iso NOT be the RTM?

    As i said before.Too much evidence points to this being RTM so stop spreading FUD!!!
     
  5. lunar21

    lunar21 MDL Addicted

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    I agree + 1
     
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  6. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    I realise what Im saying, the exe in my opinion is the real final thing, the iso is probably the first build ms have slipstreamed/integrated, what's there not to understand?
     
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  8. orbidia

    orbidia MDL Junior Member

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    The SP1 .exe is probably final. But the integrated ISO may not be the FINAL integrated ISO. There is evidence there is some test logs etc when installed from the integrated ISO.

    It seems like the integrated ISOs that were released by Wzor were made by microsoft but they may not be the final integrated ISOs because microsoft will clean them up a bit more for the real final rtm integrated ISOs.

    Has Wzor ever been wrong before?

    If they aren't really the final integrated ISO, then in the future, will microsoft be able to see the test registry entires from the Wzor integrated ISO and brand it an evaluation copy?

    Probably not. But maybe its still safer to just install windows 7 and then the SP1 exe.

    Of course, maybe these ISOs are truly RTM (release to manufacturing) but the Technet stuff which is RTW (release to web) will be a slightly cleaned up version. If that's the case, then this RTM version would be fine for updates etc but not quite as clean as the RTW version.

    Too bad nobody will really know until RTW and people can check the Wzor hashes against the technet hashes.
     
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    tcntad MDL Guru

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  10. chris.b

    chris.b MDL Novice

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    That is exactly what I said. I may be wrong and MS did a bad job in cleaning this imsages but I don't think so. On the other side, WZOR was never wrong on their releases - AFAIK
    And don't worry about the keys, they can be deleted.
     
  11. frwil

    frwil MDL Addicted

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    #1371 frwil, Jan 24, 2011
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    Actually, with Vista SP1/ Server2008 (released exactly 3 years ago) it happened right in the opposite way - leaked .exe's were slightly different from those published later by MS (but had the same version number), at the same time leaked ISO's with integrated SP1 were exactly the same as published by MS. And if to remind the story with Vista gold... well... leaked ISO had a 4-bytes "bug" of difference from the original, thus had a different hash and caused some minor installation issues for some people.

    Have to add: they never edit or polish "stuff" after they send it to manufacturers, this means RTW is just a channel for distribution of RTM.
     
  12. CRA2YHAVOK

    CRA2YHAVOK MDL Senior Member

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    Apologies if this has been mentioned already:

    Is anyone having System Restore point issues since using SP1, I have 2 laptops both running Windows 7 SP1 x86.

    On one I installed using the leaked Windows 7 SP1 Integrated ISO & on the other I just used the .EXE of SP1.

    Both seem to have the same silly little issue, I noticed System Restore gets knocked down to 0% usage & now when updating MSE via Windows Update no restore points gets created even after giving it 10% usage of my drives, prior to installing SP1 everything worked as it should.

    I've done numerous installs in case something got messed up but it happens every time, if this is indeed SP1 RTM these seem to be some pretty noticeable bugs that should have been filed/checked out & sorted well before going into the RTM branch surely.
     
  13. FukenGruven

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    #1373 FukenGruven, Jan 24, 2011
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    agree, was just about to mention that.

    While WZor is very reliable, leaks are as good as the source.
    Mistakes do happen. M$ does make last-minute changes.

    As mentioned by frwil, the Vista leak was incorrect.

    Also, Win7 was incorrect.
    Although the build number was correct; the ISO crc and label were different than what was eventually published by M$ and MSDN.

    Leaks are exactly that; leaks.

    If you want the real deal, identical to what M$ eventually publishes, you'll just have to wait.

    If you don't mind ingenuine ISOs and exe's, than the leaks are close enough.

    It is a bit annoying to see people claim 100% assurance when it's not true, or atleast cannot be proven yet.





    I didn't notice, but my computer kept freezing/stopped responding after i installed SP1.exe.

    I reverted back to Windows 7.
    Im just going to wait for it via Windows Updates since there are no benefits.
    If anything it causes more annoyances with compatibility issues.
     
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  14. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    my system restore functions, don't think a restore point is created when just a mse definition is applied but may be wrong, system restore will get reset when the sp is applied .
     
  15. CRA2YHAVOK

    CRA2YHAVOK MDL Senior Member

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    #1375 CRA2YHAVOK, Jan 24, 2011
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    Thanks, but should it go to 0% max disk usage though? (This was on the clean install via leaked ISO)

    I definitely know MSE creates a System Restore point with every Definition Update via WU, I've been using it since beta so that's how I noticed it wasn't getting done since installing SP1.

    Maybe I'm just that unlucky that it keeps happening even after reinstalling :(
     
  16. thethingy

    thethingy MDL Senior Member

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    You wont get a restore created till one is called by an installer or update, try turning off system restore on all drives then restarting and turning it back on then tick the "create restore point now" box, if after a few restarts your usage goes back to 0% then you do have troubles.....................
     
  17. Trinket

    Trinket MDL Senior Member

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    That is true. Everyone saying the leakers are always right, but that's not the same thing as saying the leaks are identical to the official MS releases. So the leaks are probably early image compilations of the build number that has been decided on as RTM, which now surely is 17514, but it is likely that MS will clean up/tweak/polish the official release a bit more than has been done on the leaked builds.
     
  18. Enigma256

    Enigma256 MDL Senior Member

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    #1378 Enigma256, Jan 24, 2011
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    You are incorrect on that point.

    The leaked Win7 ISOs did match what MSFT eventually released on MSDN exactly. Maybe you got the "wrong" leaked ISO (I had gotten the one from Wzor), or maybe you were comparing an OEM ISO with a Retail ISO (MSDN ISOs are retail, not OEM) (OEM & retail do differ in the volume label).

    The fact of the matter is, the ISOs are all built as a part of MSFT's automated build process. They were all generated and assembled right when after everything was compiled. Microsoft doesn't later go in and tinker with their ISOs. So the only way a leaked ISO will differ from the eventual release is if (1) the leaker tampered with the ISO or (2) there was some sort of data corruption in transit.
     
  19. calpo

    calpo MDL Member

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    The problem is that if MS really want to make people not to believe in wzor for next release .... MS will even change a bit to make HASHES number different from wzor... in order that We do not believe whatever wzor release for next time ..... will be unofficial.

    That's my thought
     
  20. sam3971

    sam3971 MDL Guru

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    Hey guys, IDK if this is the best place to ask this but has anyone elase had any issues removing the win7 SP1 RC build? I am trying to upgrade the SP1 on my sisters computer and everytime when it says "Configuring Service Pack", it fails then says "Reverting Changes" Anyone have any ideas? IK reinstalling the OS will fix this but I am trying to work around it lol.
     
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