Windows 7 - Win Explorer's UI behaviour changed for symbolic links?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by phaolo, Jan 8, 2019.

  1. phaolo

    phaolo MDL Novice

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    For the new bug I just discussed about with foxyrick..
     
  2. foxyrick

    foxyrick MDL Member

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    Yeah, understood. That's one of the things I used to tick too. I say 'used to' because I use Directory Opus now, instead of Explorer. That's one of the very few pieces of software that I think is well worth the money.
     
  3. adric

    adric MDL Expert

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    Sorry about that, I missed the fact that your problem was related to classic shell.
     
  4. foxyrick

    foxyrick MDL Member

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    #24 foxyrick, Jan 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2019
    I've narrowed it down a bit, if this helps.

    The issue did not happen with the Simplix June 2018 update pack installed:

    KB2479943
    KB2491683
    KB2506014
    KB2506212
    KB2506928
    KB2509553
    KB2533552
    KB2534111
    KB2545698
    KB2547666
    KB2552343
    KB2560656
    KB2563227
    KB2564958
    KB2574819
    KB2579686
    KB2592687
    KB2603229
    KB2604115
    KB2620704
    KB2621440
    KB2631813
    KB2640148
    KB2647753
    KB2654428
    KB2660075
    KB2667402
    KB2670838
    KB2676562
    KB2685811
    KB2685813
    KB2690533
    KB2698365
    KB2705219
    KB2716513
    KB2719033
    KB2719857
    KB2726535
    KB2727528
    KB2729094
    KB2732059
    KB2732487
    KB2736422
    KB2742599
    KB2750841
    KB2761217
    KB2763523
    KB2770660
    KB2773072
    KB2786081
    KB2791765
    KB2799926
    KB2800095
    KB2807986
    KB2808679
    KB2813347
    KB2813430
    KB2818604
    KB2830477
    KB2834140
    KB2840631
    KB2841134
    KB2843630
    KB2847927
    KB2849696
    KB2849697
    KB2852386
    KB2853952
    KB2857650
    KB2861698
    KB2862330
    KB2862335
    KB2864202
    KB2868038
    KB2871997
    KB2882822
    KB2884256
    KB2891804
    KB2892074
    KB2893294
    KB2893519
    KB2894844
    KB2900986
    KB2908783
    KB2911501
    KB2912390
    KB2918077
    KB2919469
    KB2923545
    KB2931356
    KB2937610
    KB2943357
    KB2966583
    KB2968294
    KB2970228
    KB2972100
    KB2973201
    KB2977292
    KB2978742
    KB2984972
    KB2985461
    KB2991963
    KB2992611
    KB3000483
    KB3003743
    KB3004375
    KB3006121
    KB3006137
    KB3010788
    KB3011780
    KB3013531
    KB3020370
    KB3020388
    KB3020393
    KB3021674
    KB3023215
    KB3030377
    KB3035126
    KB3037574
    KB3042058
    KB3045685
    KB3046017
    KB3046269
    KB3054476
    KB3055642
    KB3059317
    KB3060716
    KB3064209
    KB3067903
    KB3071756
    KB3072305
    KB3074543
    KB3075226
    KB3078601
    KB3078667
    KB3086255
    KB3093513
    KB3097989
    KB3102429
    KB3107998
    KB3108371
    KB3108664
    KB3109103
    KB3109560
    KB3110329
    KB3118401
    KB3123479
    KB3126587
    KB3127220
    KB3137061
    KB3138378
    KB3138612
    KB3138910
    KB3139398
    KB3139914
    KB3140245
    KB3142024
    KB3146706
    KB3147071
    KB3149090
    KB3150220
    KB3156016
    KB3156019
    KB3159398
    KB3161102
    KB3161949
    KB3177467
    KB3179573
    KB3184143
    KB4019990
    KB4040966
    KB4040980
    KB4054998
    KB4095874
    KB4284826
    KB917607
    KB976902
    KB982018

    but it did happen after installing the August 2018 pack:

    KB2479943
    KB2491683
    KB2506014
    KB2506212
    KB2506928
    KB2533552
    KB2534111
    KB2545698
    KB2547666
    KB2552343
    KB2560656
    KB2563227
    KB2564958
    KB2574819
    KB2579686
    KB2592687
    KB2603229
    KB2604115
    KB2620704
    KB2621440
    KB2631813
    KB2640148
    KB2647753
    KB2654428
    KB2660075
    KB2667402
    KB2670838
    KB2676562
    KB2685811
    KB2685813
    KB2690533
    KB2698365
    KB2705219
    KB2716513
    KB2719033
    KB2719857
    KB2726535
    KB2727528
    KB2729094
    KB2732059
    KB2732487
    KB2736422
    KB2742599
    KB2750841
    KB2761217
    KB2763523
    KB2770660
    KB2773072
    KB2786081
    KB2791765
    KB2799926
    KB2800095
    KB2807986
    KB2808679
    KB2813347
    KB2813430
    KB2818604
    KB2830477
    KB2834140
    KB2840631
    KB2841134
    KB2843630
    KB2847927
    KB2849696
    KB2849697
    KB2852386
    KB2853952
    KB2857650
    KB2861698
    KB2862330
    KB2862335
    KB2864202
    KB2868038
    KB2871997
    KB2882822
    KB2884256
    KB2891804
    KB2892074
    KB2893294
    KB2893519
    KB2894844
    KB2900986
    KB2908783
    KB2911501
    KB2912390
    KB2918077
    KB2919469
    KB2920188
    KB2923545
    KB2931356
    KB2937610
    KB2943357
    KB2966583
    KB2968294
    KB2970228
    KB2972100
    KB2973201
    KB2977292
    KB2978742
    KB2984972
    KB2985461
    KB2991963
    KB2992611
    KB3000483
    KB3003743
    KB3004375
    KB3006121
    KB3006137
    KB3010788
    KB3011780
    KB3013531
    KB3020370
    KB3020388
    KB3020393
    KB3021674
    KB3023215
    KB3030377
    KB3035126
    KB3037574
    KB3042058
    KB3045685
    KB3046017
    KB3046269
    KB3054476
    KB3055642
    KB3059317
    KB3060716
    KB3064209
    KB3067903
    KB3071756
    KB3072305
    KB3074543
    KB3075226
    KB3078601
    KB3078667
    KB3086255
    KB3093513
    KB3097989
    KB3102429
    KB3107998
    KB3108371
    KB3108664
    KB3109103
    KB3109560
    KB3110329
    KB3118401
    KB3123479
    KB3126587
    KB3127220
    KB3137061
    KB3138378
    KB3138612
    KB3138910
    KB3139398
    KB3139914
    KB3140245
    KB3142024
    KB3146706
    KB3147071
    KB3149090
    KB3150220
    KB3156016
    KB3156019
    KB3159398
    KB3161102
    KB3161949
    KB3177467
    KB3179573
    KB3184143
    KB4019990
    KB4040966
    KB4040980
    KB4054998
    KB4095874
    KB4343900
    KB4344152
    KB917607
    KB976902
    KB982018

    Comparing those sets of updates might give you a shortlist to try removing. I'll let you do the comparing - I'm going cross eyed. Plus I need to go and cook Goan curried sea bass :D
     
  5. phaolo

    phaolo MDL Novice

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    #25 phaolo, Jan 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2019
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    Sure, you already did a great job!

    The good news is that August 2018 pack has only 3 new patches:
    - Hotfix KB2920188
    - Security Update KB4343900 --> IE Monthly Rollup
    - Update KB4344152
    and misses:
    - Security Update KB2509553
    - Security Update KB4284826 --> IE Monthly Rollup (previous)

    The bad news is that I don't have any of those.. WTF

    --

    EDIT: hey, does Simplix add Netframe updates too? Could they be related to this error in any way?
    For some reason they aren't listed by wmic..

    Mine are (Netframe4.6):
    KB3143693
    KB3164025
    KB4014558
    KB4014591
    KB4040957
    KB4054183 --> the only one in 2018, but in January
     
  6. foxyrick

    foxyrick MDL Member

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    That's unfortunate. I did find that installing Security Update KB4343900 --> IE Monthly Rollup alone onto the working, June version triggered the issue. Maybe you have a more recent replacement of that one. I wondered if it was an IE update, the way it is tied into things.

    I don't have the other updates you listed, but then I didn't install .net.
     
  7. phaolo

    phaolo MDL Novice

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    Ah, but that's good to know!
    I've installed the IE cumulative KB4470199 from december 12, and that includes all the previous fixes!
    So it was IE's fault, go figure.
    Thanks to MS for fusing a damn browser with the entire OS..

    Now, the problem is that I doubt it's wise to renounce to all security updates for it since April just for a simlink UI issue.
    So.. how can we communicate this to MS? (if they'll even care to fix this)
     
  8. foxyrick

    foxyrick MDL Member

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    Not a cat in hell's chance. The only hope is that they'll accidentally fix it in another update.

    Good luck ;)
     
  9. phaolo

    phaolo MDL Novice

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    Yeah, I have more chances with that -_-'
    Anyway, thank you for the extended tests! :)
    You have been the only one who helped me, despite posting in various forums!