Windows 8.1 feels slow at 4.42GHz

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by Nicky31, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. MrMagic

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    You have an FX-8320 @ 4.4GHz with only a stock cooler ?

    Asking for trouble
     
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  3. murphy78

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    AMD stuff is notorious for having memory fail at higher temperatures. Intel seems to be more tolerant in general.
    Running your system very fast without extra cooling on your cpu will cause problems in the cache memory.
     
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    You're running at 4.7 Ghz on a stock cooler.

    I rarely agree with anything murphy says (no offense lolz) but in this case that seems a bit dumb. What murphy is saying about the memory fails at such a high temperature and clock rate are 100% correct. When I hit around 4.1 Ghz with my Server 2012 rig I had to back off the speed because of the extra wattage the cpu pulls and the instability of the processor at that range. You need to do a prime95 test in order to verify everything is running properly and not benchmarks.

    In other words you can't just copy the settings of other people as the coolers they use often dictate how high they can go. Your just asking for trouble with a stock cooler at that speed as I have a fan controller as well.
     
  7. MrMagic

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    Well if you want to fry your CPU, or shorten its life a lot, then you carry on

    The rest of us with any sense will use a decent cooler
     
  8. Smorgan

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    I don't begin to understand his reasoning but it seems to me he is attempting to show off his benchmark scores.

    Everyone who has an ounce of sense and runs a custom rig with overclock knows you can't use a stock cooler at those speeds. You are going to shorten the life of the 8320 at whatever temperature your truly hitting. I strongly advise almost urge you to get a sensible air cooler or even better water cooler. This is the only time I will say from the experience I have concerning rig building using a stock cooler is a road to ruin.
     
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    You know all that smoke is hermetically sealed into the CPU at the factory. Once you let it out you will never get it all back in.
     
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    This is a forum its where people express their opinions man.

    I'm going to be plain and state my thoughts coming to my head at the moment.

    Your build looks like it was bought from a reseller but the ram has been upgraded however I don't know why you put a UD3 motherboard on it as I have the UD7 which is what you see in that picture I posted. In other words I'm not sure you built the rig as the parts are rather high end. The cosmos 2 is a very nice case. Some of the parts seem a bit cheap for what you obviously put some effort into this such as the:

    1600 MHZ RAM (why note 1866 RAM?)
    Gigabye 990FXA-UD3 (this is the low end)
    Acer monitors (they don't even sell these anymore)
    CM COSMOS II (Good job on this they are awesome cases)
    Silent Pro Gold 1200 Watt (Ok PSU)
    HD 7950 (Good with this)
    256 GB SSD (Pretty good for the read write speeds)
    2TB HDD (Good for what you did)
    AMD 8320 (Low end of the 8300 series but not bad)

    I'm being nice about this.
     
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    Noctua NH-U12S can't keep it under 60 degrees under load and your magical stock cooler can? Care to share that sh*t you're smoking?
     
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    The OP was obviously a technical issue with an upgrade to Windows 8.1 and for a machine that is probably targeted primarily at gaming, the brief attempt to fix 8.1 and then go back to 8.0 makes sense. There really are not many feature improvements in 8.1 to make it worth any huge effort in that scenario.

    Since humans are complex creatures that can hold many simultaneous thoughts and objectives, his pride in the hardware became the new conversation thread which has now developed into some sort of how best to allocate hardware resources for overclocking.

    And so, here is my two cents on that.

    - the simple integrated water coolers from Asus really offer huge value and can often be found on sale at less than high end air coolers. Cool well and are quiet.

    - with an integrated water unit, you could remove most of the case fans

    - a Samsung SSD would be a reasonable improvement due to sustained write speeds over its lifetime and possibly PCI-e SSDs - with any top-end CPU the faster SSD will have more real world impact you could notice.

    - overclocking ram is a giant waste of money and time. Humans in the real world will never notice any ram gains. ever.

    - so now get 3 2560 x 1440 27" monitors, a digitizer pen and some other specialized peripherals and do some video editing, make some movies, do some 3D modeling, make some games, and then laugh like a maniac whenever your friends with iPads start ranting about how it's now a Post-PC world!
     
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    TONSCHUH: Your pictures are a delightful antidote to all the doom and gloom forecasts about the PC marketplace. Too bad most of the technical press these days write their articles at Starbucks on Mac Air's and have no clue what else a PC might be good for... They have been completely zombified by the "Less is More" mantra...
     
  19. Smorgan

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    I hate that mantra myself as well. It seems to be transcending its way through the PC ecosystem to enthrall everyone. The specs on that machine are a thing of beauty which shows in the parts and organization. When I was looking into fans for puts my air cooler on I kept leaning towards Delta fans though but the fan speed and loudness put me on a route to 3000 rpm scythe mans. Well done on the rig though.

    Mmm mmm mmm love those zip ties lol

    O and the scythe fans were cheaper then the high speed cfm delta fans.
     
  20. TONSCHUH

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    Yeah, it's getting harder to stay recognized beside the tablet generation. It's already bad enough that we get mainly console-ports.

    :(