Windows 8 (7955) Findings in M3 Leak

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by spion, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. ASV93

    ASV93 MDL Member

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    Yeah, i forgot to say that :D

    Added to the post ;)
     
  2. 0mar32

    0mar32 MDL Novice

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    I activated windows 8 7955 through NoPill 1.5 but I can't install updates, It's as if I'm not activated. Any help would be much appreciated
     
  3. 3ricky114

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    I think you can't update windows 8... because it isn't legit;)

    EDIT: Windows 8 beta will have updates
     
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  4. Niekess

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    Windows Update is useless in early leaked builds of Windows 8, not because its not legit.
    But why would Microsoft publish update while they are compiling a new build every 1/3 days with these updates inside. ;)
     
  5. 0mar32

    0mar32 MDL Novice

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    Of Course it isn't legit it's Leaked but shouldn't activation bypass that
     
  6. Niekess

    Niekess MDL Addicted

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    Which updates you mean? The ones of Windows or BluePill?

    If BluePill, did run as administrator to activate?
    If Windows Update, there are not updates at all since its a milestone. If they make updates to it then it are on new build compiles and not through Windows update. ;)
     
  7. Spider-Vice

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    But didn't Windows 7 get some updates in the beta? They even said Update for Windows 7 Beta, and in the Milestones there were updates too I think.
     
  8. Stannieman

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    If there are updates in milestone builds than that are most likely updates to test the WU mechanism
     
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  9. MrG

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    I got new Defender updates
     
  10. 3ricky114

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  11. NaiveUser

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    #152 NaiveUser, Jun 3, 2011
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    well, I just found some hints about "Jupiter" inside DirectUI.dll

    there is some code registering a window class named "JupiterWindowClass", and creating window with this class and name "Jupiter Window",
    there is also some strings like "JupiterHost" and "JupiterNative".
    there is even a registry key under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectUI\ called "EnableJupiterCachedComposition", along with "EnableNewWalk" and "EnableAcceleratedGraphics"

    plus, there is many many references to Silverlight inside DirectUI.dll, and many stuff related tech like DeepZoom, SmoothStreaming, WebBrowserBrush etc. maybe it IS the 'Silverlight for Desktop' , actually.

    there is even some code could possibly mapping the 'System.Windows.*' namespaces into "Windows.UI.DirectUI.*" namespaces, eh... not sure about this.

    I saw many people in the Silverlight community become very anxious because Sinofsky said something about HTML5/JavaScript. I think Microsoft should be talking about this DirectUI.dll thing as soon as possible, also the Windows.*.dll libraries, especially Windows.UI.Immersive :)

    oh but I still have some questions about this dll, why its not calling into DUI70 ?? is this 'DirectUI' has nothing to do with the 'DirectUI' in DUI70 ??? confused. :confused:
     
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  12. NaiveUser

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    there is a dll called 'clrhost.dll', which descript itself as 'For managed server in the Windows Runtime', its version string is "4.0.30319.16698 built by: NETFX4WIN8"

    inside it are some strings start with "NetFx45_" which indicate some settings for .NET Framework 4.5.
    I heard there are some hints about ASP.NET 4.5 inside the server build, so .NET 4.5 is comming.

    there is also a string 'ARMEnabled' :)
     
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  13. NaiveUser

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  14. NaiveUser

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    here is some strings used by proximitycpl.dll

    1100,The proximity service enables applications on your PC to exchange information with another PC or device when you bring your PC and the target device very close together.
    1101,Change Settings for Proximity
    1102,You can use these settings to turn the proximity service off for Windows and all applications on your PC. You can also manage how Windows behaves when the proximity service is turned on.
    1103,Each application that uses the proximity service may have its own settings. Those settings cannot be managed here. They must be managed from the application itself.

    1104,Some of the proximity Settings below are managed by your system administrator.
    1105,Why can't I change these settings?
    1106,How does proximity work?
    1107,Turn on the Windows P&roximity Service
    1109,check
    1110,Ask me to s&etup a device when detected by the Windows Proximity Service
    1112,check
    1113,Ask me to l&aunch applications when shared to me by another PC or device using the Windows Proximity Service
    1115,check
    1116,Ask me to a&cquire applications I don't have when shared to me by another PC or device using the Windows Proximity Service
    1118,check
    1119,&Apply

    and some strings used by ProximityUxHost.exe

    1001,A nearby device would like to launch an application. Click here to allow.
    1002,Do you want to receive a file '%1' (%2) from someone nearby?
    1101,Device %1!s! is detected. Do you want to install it?
    1601,&Install the device
     
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  15. _spinner_

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    #156 _spinner_, Jun 3, 2011
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    WELCOME BACK man, nice to see you again here! :surfing:
     
  16. Niekess

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    Welcome back Naive. :)

    Pretty fun to see how you find many new stuff already after a month we looked into 7955. :p
     
  17. NaiveUser

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    #158 NaiveUser, Jun 3, 2011
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    there is a WinTypes.dll, it is 'Windows Base Types DLL', apparently its internal name is 'api-ms-win-ro-typeresolution.dll'

    it exposes some funtions like RoGetMetaDataFile and RoParseTypeName

    it calls into another dll called RoMetadata.dll, which is 'Microsoft Metadata Library' has a version number '4.0.30319.16698 built by: NETFX4WIN8', so its part of .NET Framework.

    its surprise to see some Windows core dlls calls into .NET Framework dlls, so WinDiv and DevDiv can actually work together ! wow ! :p

    apparently WinTypes.dll can search into System32\WinMetadata\Windows.*.winmd, and get some type information from those assemblies.

    and, the WWAHost.exe calls into this 'api-ms-win-ro-typeresolution.dll', why ? does it mean a Windows Web Application can actually create Windows Runtime components ???? :rolleyes:

    and what is 'Ro' ??? :)
     
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  18. bored_neo

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    Eh, Windows stole the code from .NET :). WinMD files are similar to the old tlb files used by COM excep that WinMD files simply use .NET's metadata format.

    Likely because web apps can create WinRT objects so jscript needs to know what methods an WinRT objects has.
     
  19. bored_neo

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    Yep, DirectUI.dll has nothing to do with dui70, just the name. DirectUI.dll is basically Silverlight (agcore.dll) ported to Windows/WinRT.