The reason Windows 8 is of no use to enterprises is that all too many have line-of-business applications that would cost serious money to rewrite - even if it's just one DLL. That would be the case even if Metro weren't an issue. Metro - in and of itself - wouldn't be an issue in enterprises for the exact reasons you stated (policy) - in fact, Metro could even be blocked via Group Policy Editor. The DLL changes between operating systems, however, are where software developers - especially those that write line-of-business applications - make money - and considering per-seat licensing, - often LOTS of money. That's the REAL reason why enterprises are slow to migrate - if they ever do - unless forced to migrate by events. At best, Metro would be an excuse; however, if they have solid policy-management-tools in place, such an excuse makes no sense - and anyone that works in enterprise IT should know this. (Why do YOU think that not only Windows XP, but IE 6, hung around so long in the enterprise space?) The SMB space, however, doesn't have that excuse (in most cases) - if there is *any* penetration of Windows 8 outside of consumers, it will be SMBs that drive it. Hasn't that, in fact, largely been the case with Windows 7? Defragmentation of *boot* drives may become obsolete outside the enterprise space; however, defragmentation of non-boot drives (which will remain hard drives for the simple reason of cost per TB of storage) will remain an issue. That is where defragmentation utilities (regardless of source) will still be needed. I agree - enterprise penetration of Windows 8 will be zero (outside of niche use); however, Metro will have exactly nothing to do with it except as an excuse.
If you're strictly an enterprise user, you won't see Windows 8 - Metro or traditional-UI. Line-of-business applications in enterprises cost serious money when a rewrite is required by an operating system change - what OS runs on the enterprise clients is irrelevant. Seriously - how many enterprises run Windows 7 today?
In the video he say "Why can't I open the (Metro) Control Panel from the Start Menu without opening the Start Screen?" Actually this is possible in Beta. You can click Settings on the Charm and then open the Control Panel from the Lower Right side of your screen.
Good to hear that! But why would anyone want to open the Immersive Control Panel from the Aero Desktop?
I think the option I mentioned is for opening the Desktop Control Panel. I am not sure. +1. I agree with you. This guy hates MS and Windows 8, so wants others to think the same.
@ secretromeo While it's possible to do it that way how many people know about it? Very few. And then if you do it the Metro way you're taken out of the desktop experience that you want to use and end up back where you started in the first place. As a developer I can say that it's got major UI inconsistencies and that will annoy people, yes people, not enterprises.
@Daz: "As a developer I can say that it's got major UI inconsistencies and that will annoy people, yes people, not enterprises." I agree with you on the UI inconsistency thing. But as we all know, in the newer builds there is the Charm Bar(Win+Shift+C), so I think that will fix things to some extent. "While it's possible to do it that way how many people know about it? Very few." Well bro, if anyone has used Vista or 7, he/she will definitely be aware of the left pane in the Explorer windows and also of the Control Panel option(its just that, in Vista and 7, its on a menu beneath the explorer address bar while the same is implemented in a ribbon on Windows 8). And if they really still don't know, they don't deserve to use Windows 8! They must learn their basics right! THEY MIGHT HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE START MENU, BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN US THE START SCREEN, THE CHARM BAR(WIN+SHIFT+C) AND THE EXPLORER RIBBON! Just think about it guys................
Why why why can't the Charms bar and the Taskbar be the same thing? Seriously. They could have put Search, Share, Devices and Settings icons on the left side of the Taskbar. On the desktop you can choose if you want the Taskbar to be always on top or to auto-disable it (like it is now) and in the Metro UI the Taskbar will always move away until you swipe up from the bottom of the screen. This would solve so many problems: - no redundant UI elements (Windows 8 now has 2 different Start buttons on different places!) - familiar to Windows 7 users - see every app running and switch between any app (Metro-Style and desktop apps on one Taskbar) - in Metro apps, the Taskbar could appear when you move the mouse to the bottom of the screen. So easy! - run apps pinned to the Taskbar right from the Start Screen. Without going to the "desktop app" first. - close Metro apps by swiping up on the small tile on the Taskbar. That could bring up a Jump List. Just like it works on Windows 7 now. Why not?
@ tN0 Exactly. There's many things they could of done to make this a lot better for desktops, much like the Windows 7 Metro theme shows. It could have it's entire desktop replaced and you could swipe left or right to get more pages, kind of like you get on an Android launcher. And at least with that theme you can organize information, have a consistent UI and could have a hidden or locked taskbar depending on your preference. Everything would work, it'd be touch friendly and as the UI is consistent you wouldn't feel like you're switching between 2 very different operating system environments. With what I've said above I realise that some people may not want to lose the classic desktop layout, but you could still have that in a way and could even create pages dedicated to groups of applications e.g. page 1 could be video editing tools, page 2 the home screen with common shortcuts like Messenger, Chrome or Firefox and page 3 could be dedicated to games.
In other words, businesses will disable Metro for the same reasons they disable the same applications in earlier versions of Windows (or whole sites, in Facebook's case) - corporate policy. That's fine - I have, in fact, pointed that out. However, the real reason Windows 8 will get no penetration in enterprises (and little in corporate planet as a whole) are those pesky line-of-business applications; have they or have they not also slowed down, if not halted, the penetration of Windows 7? IT spending - now more than ever - must make it past the bean-counters; all to often, it doesn't.
Hi I installed Windows 8 Developer Preview (32 bit) on HP ProBook 4530s Laptop (Originally I installed it on VMWare, than converted VDMK to VHD and added VHD Boot Option according this guide: technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd799299%28WS.10%29.aspx on TechNet) Everything works fine, except ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6490 graphics card: I autocratically installed Engineering Sample Driver, but only integrated Intel HD graphics card was active, Than I tried to install catalyst 11.2 for 32 bit windows 7, but when Catalyst Control Center starts, it's telling me that it can not work with installed driver. Do you have any ideas how to fix it? P.S: Sorry for my English.
Compare the quality of the screenshots SNIPPING TOOL makes in various versions of Windows: Windows Vista: Windows 7: Windows 8:
Canouna, is there any news about changing the icons in Windows 8? I mean, they kept those since Vista. :\
Worried about those too, it's horrible to see the Areo icons in Metro control panel. Hope they change them
IKR! Plus when you search for a PC setting via Start Screen, Aero icons look really bad. Exp. is really not seamless, as Microsoft says.