Windows Update KB940510 5-6-08

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  1. jasqid

    jasqid MDL Member

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    jasqid MDL Member

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    Installed & Rebooted - OK

    Everything seems kool after a reboot.
    Softmod 2.1.2
     
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    jasqid MDL Member

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    Ok... I feel like an @$$..
    I didnt relaize that this updat eis a month old.:(

    I had Vista SP1 running with, what I thought was all updates... and then got this, this afternoon.
     
  4. bobramerez

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    I also just got the update...
     
  5. eshold1

    eshold1 MDL Novice

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    Am I safe to assume that this has no effect on hardmods?
     
  6. reginakampher

    reginakampher MDL Addicted

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    Yes. I have read that it detects only timer hacks and driver type softmod such as Paradox. Even if it detected a softmod or a timer hack, it just gives you a one time message that it detected. The SP1 update is the component that actually removes and/or disables the hacks. The bootloader type softmod and the hardmods are not detected. They are safe for now.
     
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    #8 FuzzyMaster, May 8, 2008
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    Corrections

    This is not true. SP1 neither removes nor disables the hacks. What it actually does, is prevent activation if it detects the hacks.

    Have a look here regarding the "grace timer";
    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/posts/24327

    Also, MS has said (I think on an MS blog that I can't find at the moment) that this update (940510) will be constantly updated with new hack detections and that they will separately provide removal programs and/or instructions (see "grace timer" as an example). You might want to think of this as essentially a new form of WGA with regular updates.

    Finally, this update does not actually "install" on your computer although WU does remember if it was "installed. It runs and then goes away, much like the monthly "Malicious Software Removal Tool" unless of course it finds something.
    :eek:

    By the way, I also have it sitting in WU waiting to "installed", which is why I searched for and found this thread. Thanks jasqid, you were right to post what you saw on your PC. You just never know what to expect with MS. :D
     
  9. inside

    inside MDL Novice

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    Anybody got an alert?
    I'd like to see a screenshot of the first alert dialogbox (saying "Your Windows has got an exploit installed..." or something, not prompting activation).
    Any site where I can see one?
     
  10. FuzzyMaster

    FuzzyMaster MDL Member

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    Ahhh...the old "Forgot to scroll down the page" excuse.

    Just kidding. ;)

    Glad it was what you were looking for.
     
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    #15 FuzzyMaster, May 8, 2008
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    reginakampher,

    Microsoft originally was planning to have SP1 disable and possibly remove the hacks (I believe it was even written that way in the original SP1 White Paper) but later decided to use WGA type updates that they could continually update over time rather than further delaying SP1 for more regression testing. This was also due to the potential impact on unsuspecting users that actually thought they had a legitimate copy of Vista pre-installed on their low-cost clone PCs.

    In any case, you are quoting a press release from a Microsoft Marketing VP compared to the quote I linked from a Microsoft developer. Which one do you think is more likely to be telling you the truth? or should I say; Which one is more likely to be representing reality ?

    Not that I would suggest that a MS VP would lie, but simply that a developer is far more likely to know what was really built in to the product than a marketing VP who is more interested in spin control and sales than technical details.

    Its really a moot point as long as people know what to beware of with SP1. Then they can act appropriately in their own interests. I think this web site has done a great job of informing people about what to watch for.

    Oh and by the way, were you aware that Mike Sievert is no longer with Microsoft? Apparently his departure had something to do with the way he handled Vista.

    'nuff said. :D
     
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    #16 reginakampher, May 8, 2008
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    My first reaction to your initial comment on my replay was that you are trying to split hairs. Regardless of how SP1 goes about deactivating Vista, the end result is the same. I do agree that it is a fruitless discussion. Thank you for your insights.
     
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