Windows Update Manager

Discussion in 'MDL Projects and Applications' started by DavidXanatos, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. Whistler4

    Whistler4 MDL Member

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    Yeah, it's a fallacy that metered is the only option for Windows Home. And it has some downsides, as you pointed out.
     
  2. Jans

    Jans MDL Novice

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    WuMgr reports incorrect file size KB4467708
    WuMgr reports size 81,94 GB
    Downloaded .msu file = 95,8 MB
     
  3. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    It's not incorrect, and it's not WuMgr responsibility

    that's what WUA report for UUP files set (Cumulative Update)
     
  4. pcuser10

    pcuser10 MDL Novice

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    #404 pcuser10, Nov 13, 2018
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    My WU Settings is not showing a blank page but the usual WU contents upon booting today. This despite the Hide WU Settings Page box being ticked.

    [UPDATE]
    The WU Settings page showed the latest Patch Tuesday updates, downloaded and installed them, and asked for restart.

    I had asked about the Automatic Update (default) earlier, wondering if it meant AU by Windows 10 or AU by WUM. Now, apparently, it's AU by Windows 10. o_O
     
  5. Jans

    Jans MDL Novice

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    OK, thank you.
    very misleading behaviour.
     
  6. DavidXanatos

    DavidXanatos MDL Senior Member

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    Yes its AU by windows 10, sorry for the late answer was very busy the last few days.

    WuMgr does not do auto update currently, it can only be set to notify you about updates, but that is done in the startup group box, not on the GPO tab (auto update), the entire tab manages only windows settings.
    This should be communicated better, but not sure how, on earlier versions it was the group policy tab (GPO) but once it got some more options to disable services i thought still calling it GPO would be factually incorrect. On the other hand calling it "windows automatic update" is to long for the tab.

    I could add a tool tip to every element in that tab saying that is applies with regard to windows updates and not wumgr's functionality?
    How about that? or any better ideas?

    Cheers
    David X.
     
  7. Wolfens

    Wolfens MDL Novice

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    #407 Wolfens, Nov 15, 2018
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    @DavidXanatos
    tooltips are all that is needed, with the tooltip letting the user know the function, this could be done for every element.
    If you do this using the translate mstrings.add like you did for the buttons then others can add to the Translation.ini
    Ran on all my versions the other day and all went well
     
  8. pcuser10

    pcuser10 MDL Novice

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    It's all right. Thanks for the information.

    BTW, may I know your answers for items 1 & 2 in #396?

    As for #391, is it caused by my settings?

    That would be nice.
     
  9. pcuser10

    pcuser10 MDL Novice

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    Just experimented and found the following:

    Whether the Hide WU Settings Page box is ticked or not, my WU Settings page remains blank as long as Disable Automatic Update is chosen. This got me confused before, because I couldn't isolate the cause of the blank page. More so earlier, when I did not know that it had to do with WUMgr and tried looking for the cause in the policies, registry, and other programs.

    The WU Settings page shows the contents if Automatic Update (default) is chosen.
     
  10. DavidXanatos

    DavidXanatos MDL Senior Member

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    1. then the box is ticked the page should be entirely gone, not just blank, when update facilitators are disabled, the page comes up blank because internally the code part fails as it can not establish a communication to the now disabled update facilitators.

    2. you seam to have a pro or home edition of windows 10 on these editions said options are not longer available, M$ removed them

    3. all the items on this tab refer to windows's auto automatic update
     
  11. pcuser10

    pcuser10 MDL Novice

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    By design or not, the blank page is disconcerting. Could make people think something is broken.

    I am using Home, now on Build 17134.407.
     
  12. DavidXanatos

    DavidXanatos MDL Senior Member

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    something is broken... on purpose ;)
     
  13. Jans

    Jans MDL Novice

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    KB4023057: "This update may try to reset network settings if problems are detected, and it will clean up registry keys that may be preventing updates from being installed successfully."

    Can I install KB4023057 or does it criple WuMgr functionality ?
     
  14. nostra

    nostra MDL Novice

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    Thank you for your great work.
    But I miss the following, as seen in the picture.

    ru-board.jpg

    It was available for the old ru-board version.
    It is very advantageous if you can choose or deselect all updates with just one click.
    Especially if there are many.


    I would also like to start with "Windows Update" and not with "Windows History".
    The latter is less interesting.
     
  15. nostra

    nostra MDL Novice

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    It works for the ru-board version

    ru1.jpg


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  16. Whistler4

    Whistler4 MDL Member

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    @DavidXanatos, I second the request for a "Select all" feature. After hiding what you don't want, you may be left with a lot of updates to individually check (in fact, that was the case for me with the last MS offering, including MS Office updates). It's not a big deal, but I think the intention is for WuMgr to be at least as good as WUMT, not to drop features.

    I also second the big "Thank you for your great work."
     
  17. pcuser10

    pcuser10 MDL Novice

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    What I meant was if the Hide WU Settings Page box is ticked, the Windows Update (above Windows Security) in the left pane inside Settings should not be visible. I saw this (no WU) sometimes before, but it has not happened again lately.

    Also, the window of WU Manager is not saving its size, so I have to stretch it every time I open it. I don't know if the issue is on my side. If it's not, could you please look into it when you're free? Thanks.
     
  18. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    It might not be obvious, but if you click the category line above the updates, it selects all in that category. Then, just enable the checkbox on one to enable it on all. Still more clicks if >1 category, but substantially less than one-by-one.
     
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  19. DavidXanatos

    DavidXanatos MDL Senior Member

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    I wil add a select all option in the next build,
    and i wil look into the sorting to make it better