Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by abbodi1406, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. vonmir

    vonmir MDL Member

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    NOTE -> This post is about an update for M$ .NET Framework 5, not the versions under discussion so far.

    A program I recently installed requires NET Framework 5. I have the program installed on two Win 7 Pro x64 machines.

    I've been using the Bypass to keep things up to date since the beginning. As I've written many times, my most sincere thanks to the Bypass team!

    Anyway, on one of the machines, I have the .NET Bypass active; on the other it's inactive (uninstalled).

    This evening, I decided to run WU again, just to see what's going on. I was very surprised to see that WU provided and installed the update to the latest version of NET 5 (it's 5.0.4) on both machines!

    Of course you can't just get rid of NET Framework v. 4+; some programs need it to run. However, as time goes on, it appears that the use of NET 5 will grow, so I thought I'd bring this to the Bypass users' attention.

    Have a nice weekend.
     
  2. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Addicted

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    Interesting, I thought this was only updated manually still. COU has some .NET Core stuff for V3 but not V5. I wonder if it will start showing up there?
     
  3. CaptainSpeleo

    CaptainSpeleo MDL Member

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    There is no Microsoft .NET Framework 5.0
    The very last version was 4.8

    I'm assuming you're referring to Microsoft .NET 5.0 Runtime
     
  4. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    #5464 ch100, Mar 13, 2021
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    To be fully patched and up to date with all .NET Framework versions, you only need KB4603002-v2 which is the current one, v1 being expired and no longer available.
    Anything else is redundant but not harmful if left alone in the system because it is superseded by this latest update which contains updates for various versions.
    The update for .NET 3.5 is from September 2020 and has not been updated since, but the updates for all other versions have been revised recently and should be installed.
    As @abbodi1406 says in an earlier post, the v2 versions only have resigned files and strictly speaking are not required, but moving forward, to have the cleanest possible updates and avoid future issues as much as possible, you should have KB4603002-v2 installed as this is the version which Microsoft currently has as reference/baseline.
    Hopefully next month this will all be cleaned up with a superseding package.

    EDIT: If this is all too complicated, it is OK to let Microsoft Update to do its own thing, assuming that you are entitled to receive the updates and have them installed in one way or another.
     
  5. Ricard0

    Ricard0 MDL Novice

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    This is correct. KB4603002-v2 does it all.
    If I look at the "installed updates", they are now all shown as being installed in March 2021.
    (including the older ones that were already there) All is shown as being a recent install.
    So it looks like the new KB4603002-v2 cleans out earlier updates and than puts everything back in place that is needed for your system.

    At least that's how it went in my case....
     
  6. vonmir

    vonmir MDL Member

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    This happened on one of my Win7machines, but not on the other five. :confused:
     
  7. vonmir

    vonmir MDL Member

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    When I downloaded the program I use (it's called Vidcoder), its installer called M$, which installed NET 5.0.1. (Vidcoder 6.67 beta requires NET 5+.)

    Then, when I ran WU, it automagically updated to NET 5.0.4. As I wrote above, this happened on both the machine on which the NET Bypass was active and on the one from which I had uninstalled it.
     
  8. Kansas Tornado

    Kansas Tornado MDL Novice

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    Sorry if I am also asking the same question that others have already asked. I have not had any problems with updating until now. After following the link - Tutorial: Using BypassESU AIO + ESU Updates Overview. I receive a popup window "There was a problem sending the command to the program" when I try to access the Windows Update program.

    What am I doing wrong, or what did I miss?
     
  9. FroggieTheGremlin

    FroggieTheGremlin MDL Junior Member

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    I believe there's a big difference between updating FRAMEWORKS and RUNTIMES. RUNTIME updating should not be restricted by ESU/non-ESU support. Runtimes are needed by any program using them and are most likely updated just like OFFICE modules. FRAMEWORKS are a whole nuther thing. They are development environments and, as we can see, are ESU update restricted accordingly. If the v5 FRAMEWORK eventually becomes available, I'm sure it will be ESU restricted as well.
     
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  10. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    @vonmir

    This thread is for ESU updates, not Mictosoft products updates
     
  11. vonmir

    vonmir MDL Member

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    OK, thank you.
     
  12. vonmir

    vonmir MDL Member

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    Please excuse me. I only made my comment because I was surprised that I received the update both with the NET ESU Bypass installed and uninstalled.

    Again, I apologize.
     
  13. kevinmilana

    kevinmilana MDL Novice

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    @abbodi1406 @Enthousiast Hello how are you? I wanted to ask you something. I have been installing important updates manually for a long time since through WU it does not let me and this month I did not receive the update of net framework via WU. Although it is true that I have the v4 bypass if I'm not mistaken, my questions are the following: Is it worth installing the last bypass so that everything flows correctly? If the answer is yes, how would you have to do to remove the v4 bypass and install the latest bypass? and the last one, in my netbook an error occurred with the WU in which it does not allow me to install any update that is not the important one each month and I have to install it manually. Sorry if my questions sound confusing but hey. I am using the translator since my language is Spanish.
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    There is no new .NET updates

    if you installed 2021-02 .NET Rollup, then you are good
     
  15. Fetzerator

    Fetzerator MDL Novice

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    Thank you. That helps. My main reason for being cautious was in trying to avoid installing a buggy update. It's good to know that wasn't the case here.
     
  16. fakjea

    fakjea MDL Novice

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    Hi guys, maybe already posted but v11 breaks Word 2010. Excel, Powerpoint etc. work fine.
    When you uninstall v11 Word is working
     
  17. FroggieTheGremlin

    FroggieTheGremlin MDL Junior Member

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    @fakjea - see OP (Original Post, Post #1 in this thread) following v9 download information...
     
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  18. BernieBildman

    BernieBildman MDL Novice

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    On another topic, today Microsoft offered me in WU a Microsoft Edge _UPDATE_, 91.9 MB. Note that I never installed Edge to my Windows 7 Pro in the first place, I use Opera and Chrome - not sure I want Edge on my system in the first place after reading reviews.

    Anyone else encountering this?? Thanks