Bypass Windows 7 Extended Security Updates Eligibility

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by abbodi1406, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Seven4ever

    Seven4ever MDL Member

    May 16, 2023
    108
    44
    10
    I think you had not read my post at #7642 , you posted as duplicate at #7644 .
     
  2. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

    Dec 21, 2012
    6,828
    7,845
    210
    MSE/MSSE = Defender. Was just renamed later. Used that method even on SCEP (System Center Endpoint Protection), higher version of MSE.

    Not speaking of the old Defender, which was even more crappy.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. John_3_16

    John_3_16 MDL Member

    Feb 8, 2020
    137
    179
    10
    Maybe. But MS updates Defender & MSE separately. MSE was strictly Win7 protection & ended service when Win7 did. They are NOT the same via MS. Defender will continue to be updated completely while only the malware definitions continue to be updated for SSE through 2023. You are probably not interested in MS links where these details are confirmed. They are included in my comment on page 382 to FuzzleSnuz. I do agree there are much better AVs available.
     
  4. ah-le-le

    ah-le-le MDL Novice

    Oct 27, 2012
    35
    0
    0
    Problem: Cannot Perform an In-Place Upgrade to Windows 10


    Details

    -Windows 7 Home x86 system activated with Daz Loader.

    -Used Bypass ESU to receive security updates until January 2023.

    -System not used since February 2023. Now I want to upgrade machine to Windows 10.

    -So, I uninstalled Bypass ESU.

    -Tried using Using mediacreationtool22h2.exe and the batch file mediacreationtool.bat to perform the upgrade. Neither would give me the option of keeping keep my files, apps, and settings. Option is grayed out. Reason the app gives is...

    "Your files, apps, and settings can't be kept because you're installing an edition of Windows that's different than the one you're curently using."


    Is the reason I cannot perform the in-place upgrade to Windows 10 Home or Pro is I previously used ESU Bypass??? Regardless of the reason, what would you suggest so I can do the in-place upgrade to 10?

    Thanks.
     
  5. ah-le-le

    ah-le-le MDL Novice

    Oct 27, 2012
    35
    0
    0
    @molisz

    Thanks for the reply. Does Windows 7 and 8 keys no longer working to activate Windows 10 mean that MS is blocking the in-place upgrade from 7 or 8 to 10?

    I thought upgrading from 7 or 8 to 10 was still possible. Difference would be that the end result would be an unactivated 10.
     
  6. FroggieTheGremlin

    FroggieTheGremlin MDL Member

    Aug 25, 2015
    122
    105
    10
    Don't know the details, but somewhere around 23September, the FREE upgrades seemed to stop working.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. FroggieTheGremlin

    FroggieTheGremlin MDL Member

    Aug 25, 2015
    122
    105
    10
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. John_3_16

    John_3_16 MDL Member

    Feb 8, 2020
    137
    179
    10
  9. ah-le-le

    ah-le-le MDL Novice

    Oct 27, 2012
    35
    0
    0
    Maintaining the potential to revert to Windows 7 is not relevant to me. I just want to perform an in-place upgrade.

    Saying that the files, apps, and settings cannot be carried over to a 10 install because the existing OS is 7 does not make sense. Universal Windows Install Media is supposed present the option of upgrading the OS.

    However, I seem to remember that in the past, in-place upgrades would not work with OEM copies of Windows. In-place upgrades only worked with retail copies of Windows. I do not think that applies to the mediacreationtool though. Maybe it does now, and I need a retail copy of Windows 10???

    Somebody here must have performed an in-place upgrade to 10. I just want to know why mine is failing. I expect the upgrade not to be activated once completed. I just want the system to run Windows 10 carrying over all the settings, apps, and data from 7.

    By the way, how do you guys hide your post so it can only been seen by users who log in? I have looked multiple times in the settings and have never found that option.
     
  10. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

    Dec 21, 2012
    6,828
    7,845
    210
    Posts with links in them automatically require registration to access them. There is no user-settable option for that.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. ah-le-le

    ah-le-le MDL Novice

    Oct 27, 2012
    35
    0
    0
    1st link suggestion: Uninstall KB4562830. Unfortunately, that update was never issued to Windows 7. So, the action of removing KB4562830 cannot be performed on the system in question.

    2nd link suggestion: Uninstall KB4562830 which cannot be done on a Windows 7 machine as I just mentioned.

    3rd link suggestion: This article is for the problem: "‘You can’t keep Windows settings, personal files, and apps because your current version of Windows might be installed in an unsupported directory". Well, that is not the issue I am dealing with.

    Although none of the links are going to me of much use for my situation, I do appreciate the effort.

    I am going to speculate that the mediacreationtool only is willing to install Windows 10 Home on my system. However since it was originally a 32-bit Windows 7 Home Premium device but later added ESU updates, the Windows Installer is confused and not passing some kind of verification that the machine is Windows 7 Home Premium.

    I am going to have to experiment and abandon the mediacreation tool. Instead, I am going to get an iso where I can manually select Windows 10 Pro or better and see what happens.

    If that fails to give me and in-place upgrade, I will try upgrading the Windows 7 Home Premium machine -> Windows 7 Pro or Business before retrying 10.

    If that also fails, maybe I might have to try Windows 7 Home Premium -> Windows 7 Pro or Business -> Windows 8 Pro or Business -> Windows 10 Pro or Business.
     
  12. John_3_16

    John_3_16 MDL Member

    Feb 8, 2020
    137
    179
    10
  13. Cixert

    Cixert MDL Novice

    Apr 5, 2021
    22
    5
    0
    #7656 Cixert, Nov 7, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2023

    Yes, these are old updates, which is why it seems strange to me.
    I don't have much experience in Windows Seven.
    I have it installed this year 2023 from an original Windows 7 Ultimate DVD.

    I have only used offline updater packages. I have never used Windows Update.
    I would like to be able to update offline.
    On this computer I do not have a cable Internet connection, I connect it through a smartphone.

    I do not remember if I have installed the cumulative package KB4534310 (2020-01-14), if I try to install this now says "the update is not applicable to the equipment"
    I have not installed the update KB4539601 (2020-01-31) that corrects the 2010-01-14 bug
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

    Feb 19, 2011
    17,315
    91,499
    340
    SSU KB4490628 always the first, alone
    KB4474419
    KB3138612 or KB3172605
    KB2670838
    IE11
    ... applicable updates
    latest SSU
    latest Monthly Rollup
    Convenience Rollup KB3125574 always the last, alone

    SP1 (kb976932) 9.1 MiB = old SSU KB2533552
    install or hide
     
  15. John_3_16

    John_3_16 MDL Member

    Feb 8, 2020
    137
    179
    10
    You have a small nightmare on your hands. You started with an original Win7 OS installation disk. WU is telling you the truth. You need every update from the date of that disk. AND you have no ability to download. A lot of those updates are required before other updates can be applied. I can't help you.

    Maybe someone else from this forum can step in who has knowledge of current updated Win7 image files that are available. You would have to work out the logistics of how they get it to you since you cannot download them. Once you have it up-to-date I don't know how you would continue to update without download capability. Tough spot my friend. Sorry. ;>(
     
  16. xkubus

    xkubus MDL Novice

    Dec 10, 2011
    34
    43
    0
    Isn't it easier and more correct to just install UpdatePack7R2?
     
  17. Cixert

    Cixert MDL Novice

    Apr 5, 2021
    22
    5
    0
    In the first post BypassESU it says:
    "for Windows 7 Client: it allow to receive updates up to 2023-01 (official EOS)"

    I just installed the latest ESU offline (October 2023) without problems in Windows 7 Ultimate.:
    -2023-10-10 (KB5031408) (quality only)
    -2023-10-10 (KB5031441) (security only)
    Is this normal, so what is the ESU update limit?
    I download it to another computer with an Internet connection in another address and transfer it here using a USB stick.

    On the other hand I cannot install the latest free monthly rollups only quality:
    -KB4534310 (2020-01-14)
    -KB4539601 (2020-01-31)
    if I try to install these it says "the update is not applicable to the equipment"
    (only security updates work without problems)
    any suggestions?
    Do I have to install a specific SSU stack to install these quality packages.