1. LTSC_Fanboy

    LTSC_Fanboy MDL Junior Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    79
    50
    0
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  2. Skyrocket7183

    Skyrocket7183 MDL Novice

    May 31, 2022
    2
    1
    0
    I also have a question regarding MAS.

    My idea is to use KMS38 for now (as it's all local) and if needed, switch to HWID in the future (hwid verifies with MS...right?).
    I've tested KMS38 on 2 systems now, one a virtual machine (vm) and the other hardware, both activations were successful.

    However, at one point I discovered a webserver running on my hardware based install and not on my vm.
    It got me wondering if MAS does install a local (kms)webserver to fake kms key re-activating?
    The only thing that is currently running on my hardware install is Windows 10 ltsc 2021 + drivers + latest windows updates.

    if the webserver isn't created by MAS, I'll wipe+reinstall.
     
  3. Windows_Addict

    Windows_Addict MDL Expert

    Jul 19, 2018
    1,418
    4,990
    60
    It doesn't do that in KMS38. I'm not sure what you mean by a webserver.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  4. Skyrocket7183

    Skyrocket7183 MDL Novice

    May 31, 2022
    2
    1
    0
    I somehow have IIS Web Services installed and running on my systemdrive, which got installed without my knowledge.
    No clue what's going on, but I wanted to rule out MAS as the possible source of installation.

    Well, time to wipe/reinstall ;)
     
  5. BongoMania

    BongoMania MDL Novice

    Feb 12, 2023
    3
    1
    0
    #2965 BongoMania, Feb 12, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2023
    Is there a very simple guide to getting 2021 IoT LTSC installed & set up? I'm running LTSB, and it's been a long time since I've done anything like this.

    Would also appreciate a best practices guide or resource on getting rid of the telemetry post-install. Also haven't done that since I set up my current machine.
     
  6. LTSC_Fanboy

    LTSC_Fanboy MDL Junior Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    79
    50
    0

    Hello,

    I listed the six guides
    (at https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...prise-n-ltsc-2021.84509/page-144#post-1771253 ) that I refer to for tweaking after I do fresh install

    if you have SSD, you need to disable defrag from running automatically on schedule
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. ceo54

    ceo54 MDL Addicted

    Aug 13, 2015
    907
    407
    30
    #2967 ceo54, Feb 12, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2023
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. case-sensitive

    case-sensitive MDL Expert

    Nov 7, 2013
    1,681
    742
    60
    ' Youll need a new ap to open this msgameingovelay link ' ?
     
  9. BongoMania

    BongoMania MDL Novice

    Feb 12, 2023
    3
    1
    0
    This is helpful. Alas, I don't know how to proceed.
    Should I download the
    en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_dvd_257ad90f
    or the
    en-us_windows_10_iot_enterprise_version_21h2_arm64_dvd_fe1aa7cd

    I'm assuming the former. How would I go about activation IoT with HWID?
     
  10. Dark Vador

    Dark Vador X Æ A-12

    Feb 2, 2011
    4,806
    7,071
    150
    ceo54 this tool do more trouble than good
    so .. I cant recommended using this tool

    ( its work like Chemotherapy, its kill good things,
    to disable bad things, this is not the way .. )
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. ceo54

    ceo54 MDL Addicted

    Aug 13, 2015
    907
    407
    30
    Nah, it doesn't remove anything needed or important, just disables it, creates a backup folder, from which everything could be restored and have custom switches to configure things to your liking.

    Been using it for the last 5 years without any issue. Not a single byte of data gets transferred to Micros**t except for downloading/upgrading certificates but each to it's own.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. Dark Vador

    Dark Vador X Æ A-12

    Feb 2, 2011
    4,806
    7,071
    150
    I do wonder, did you see the services tool complains they are bad ?
    in first time I run this tool, network gone wrong
    from that day, I understand that, remove as much as you can
    its not the best, you can keep some services, for stability of the system
    so it send some telemetry, but for the benefit good
    you can't get zero telemetry, without killing the system
    you have to balance, between privacy & system stability

    btw I use google chrome, and google account
    google know what I watch at my free time
    who cares ?


    Code:
     [ Manual ] AarSvc                                             [ Manual ] BcastDVRUserService
     [ Manual ] BluetoothUserService                               [ Manual ] CaptureService
      [ Auto ]  cbdhsvc                                             [ Auto ]  CDPSvc
      [ Auto ]  CDPUserSvc                                          [ Auto ]  cldflt
     [ Manual ] ConsentUxUserSvc                                   [ Manual ] CredentialEnrollmentManagerUserSvc
     [ Manual ] DeviceAssociationBrokerSvc                         [ Manual ] DeviceAssociationService
     [ Manual ] DevicePickerUserSvc                                [ Manual ] DevicesFlowUserSvc
     [ Manual ] diagnosticshub                                     [ Manual ] diagsvc
      Disabled  DiagTrack                                          [ Manual ] DmWapPushService
     [ Manual ] DoSvc                                               [ Auto ]  DPS
     [ Manual ] DsSvc                                              [ Manual ] InstallService
      [ Auto ]  iphlpsvc                                           [ Manual ] lfsvc
     [ Manual ] lmhosts                                            [ Manual ] LxpSvc
     [ Manual ] MessagingService                                   [ Manual ] MRxDAV
     [ Manual ] NcaSvc                                              [ Auto ]  NetBT
      [ Auto ]  OneSyncSvc                                          [ Auto ]  PcaSvc
     [ Manual ] PimIndexMaintenanceSvc                             [ Manual ] PrintWorkflowUserSvc
     [ Manual ] PushToInstall                                       Disabled  RemoteAccess
      Disabled  RemoteRegistry                                     [ Manual ] RetailDemo
      [ Auto ]  sgrmbroker                                          Disabled  shpamsvc
     [ Manual ] SmsRouter                                          [ Manual ] SSDPSRV
      [ Auto ]  StorSvc                                             [ Auto ]  TrkWks
     [ Manual ] tunnel                                              Disabled  UevAgentService
     [ Manual ] UnistoreSvc                                        [ Manual ] upnphost
     [ Manual ] UserDataSvc                                        [ Manual ] W32Time
     [ Manual ] WaaSMedicSvc                                       [ Manual ] wcncsvc
     [ Manual ] WdiServiceHost                                     [ Manual ] WdiSystemHost
     [ Manual ] WebClient                                          [ Manual ] wercplsupport
     [ Manual ] WerSvc                                             [ Manual ] WinHttpAutoProxySvc
     [ Manual ] WinRM                                              [ Manual ] wisvc
     [ Manual ] wlidsvc                                             [ Auto ]  WpnService
      [ Auto ]  WpnUserService                                     [ Manual ] XblAuthManager
     [ Manual ] XblGameSave                                        [ Manual ] XboxGipSvc
     [ Manual ] XboxNetApiSvc                                      [ Manual ] AarSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] BcastDVRUserService_f2441                          [ Manual ] BluetoothUserService_f2441
     [ Manual ] CaptureService_f2441                                [ Auto ]  cbdhsvc_f2441
      [ Auto ]  CDPUserSvc_f2441                                   [ Manual ] ConsentUxUserSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] CredentialEnrollmentManagerUserSvc_f2441           [ Manual ] DeviceAssociationBrokerSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] DevicePickerUserSvc_f2441                          [ Manual ] DevicesFlowUserSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] MessagingService_f2441                              [ Auto ]  OneSyncSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] PimIndexMaintenanceSvc_f2441                       [ Manual ] PrintWorkflowUserSvc_f2441
     [ Manual ] UnistoreSvc_f2441                                  [ Manual ] UserDataSvc_f2441
      [ Auto ]  WpnUserService_f2441
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  13. ceo54

    ceo54 MDL Addicted

    Aug 13, 2015
    907
    407
    30
    Nah, nothing ever complained to me about Blackbird for the changes it makes to the system. If anything has gone wrong or is not to your liking, you can always restore from backup and reconfigure the custom switches to exclude Blackbird from making changes to that particular module. It can't be any harder than figuring out everything on your own and doing like 1000 tweaks, right ?

    My Network or anything never went bad after using Blackbird so I'm not the one who will complain.

    I have limited Internet Connection and limited bandwidth so unlike you I can't allow Windows to use my bandwidth and my system resources for data collection that doesn't benefit me in any way.

    That essentially saying you don't care about Telemetry but lot's of other people do and in that case, you have no need for any anti-telemetry/spying tool be it Blackbird or any other tool.

    PS I will use any browser in the world but not Chrome, I have more dislike for Google than Microsoft and I stay away from their products and services as much as I can.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. LTSC_Fanboy

    LTSC_Fanboy MDL Junior Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    79
    50
    0
    hello,

    Yes, download and install the former. Avoid the arm64.

    Yes, you need HWID to activate. You probably know about the Massgravel page on GitHub
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  15. BongoMania

    BongoMania MDL Novice

    Feb 12, 2023
    3
    1
    0
    Thanks Fanboy, I did happen to find that page yesterday. Just finished all my backups.

    HWID activation via the MAS download on Github happens after installation, unless I'm mistaken. I'll see you and edit once I'm on the other side.
     
  16. LTSC_Fanboy

    LTSC_Fanboy MDL Junior Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    79
    50
    0
    #2977 LTSC_Fanboy, Feb 13, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2023
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  17. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

    Oct 30, 2009
    52,048
    114,382
    450
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  18. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

    Oct 30, 2009
    52,048
    114,382
    450
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. anna199095

    anna199095 MDL Junior Member

    Jun 25, 2018
    73
    15
    0
    #2980 anna199095, Feb 14, 2023
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2023
    Hi, guys. How do i change a key and where to get a retail key? Do i change a key before the HW then change it back to what it was?