Do you like to try an argument (again), in this case about that word Time-Bomb? Look at your own post's and threads, that would be sufficient to argue against others. I do NOT argue about others post, and there could be a lot of your post's to argue about! "Do never do to others, what you didn't like others do to you!" And, before looking (and talking/argue) about the dirt before the doors of others, clean your own place first! Regards.
OK, i am incorrect, winver always shows an expiration date (called time bomb) on officially released non eval installs, forgive me my ignorance.
I think it's all about the view! Now a simple fact would be, there maybeeeeee 0.5-1% of the users (if even that much, which I hardly would believe!), which discussing the VL /Corporate versions of (let say) Windows 10, are legal users! Legal in that term means: Owing a legal License to use Windows 10 VL/Corporate Version! And for all those users, which didn't owe such License, the use of those (Wild-)KMS Services, is illegal in its full meaning! Or would you tell otherwise? If yes, please elaborate in very details! That so called Time-Bomb is just a classification of a limited time to be able to use (in this case) a Software! There may be other names as well, just, in terms of Software, that name Time-Bomb has created some years ago for to show that limited (by time) use of a software! And such simply apply to any software which is limited in its use by time! That includes the also the software of the (hated and/or loved) Microsoft! Just, the unauthorized use of any KMS Services is strictly illegal and classified as a criminal delict! Period! If someone didn't believe in that, simply check the Law of the country where you are living in! And last but not least: Isn't it that MDL denies the discussion of pirated Applications, and the use of unauthorized KMS Services is just that!
And it all has nothing to do with the term timebomb/expiration date, it's the date after which the install won't be usable anymore, as with all insider previews and eval editions of windows. I explained in my words what grace period, kms activation period and timebomb/expiration date mean and that's the last what i have to tell about the subject.
I dont get hes point in this? if your not a insider tester and u install a preview and activate via kms the OS still time bomb for 180 days or something like that....now does kms activators remove the water mark...im not sure most likely not...as for the legality users have been running pirated software for decades not just MS what ever other brand they can run for free and will continue to do it for decades more...until they can stop it. MS will always get hack because they make their money through licensing unlike apple that makes its money on hardware sells thats why apple machines rarely get hack or infected by viruses.
So much confusion: Expiration (aka time bomb): the build will become unusable at all. Applies for IP and EVAL builds. This is regardless whether build is 'activated' or not. Grace Periods: OOBGrace in Vista/Win 7 and Office Products (the 30 days Initial Grace); Activation Grace for KMS activation (from 30 to 180 days depending on the SKU); OOTGrace (Out-of-Tolerance Grace with 30 days); there are more ... Being a target for any hacks is related to the market share of an OS, that simple.
Any activation using a KMS Server (legal or illegal) will activate the attached OS/Apps for a period of 180days at max.! KMS Server are Activation Servers running not on Microsoft's Server, running on private Servers instead, which have special Authorization of Microsoft and underlying the related Copyright Law's. Any KMS Servers/Systems running outside of that is illegal. Good question! I really don't know about that pirated KMS Servers, using a legal KMS Server, that watermarks will still exist and not removed. The recommendation from Microsoft is, never to use an Insider Version of Windows in a Production area, even not a VL Version. They have and still will be as long as ever possible! No doubt with that! AFAIK, the first Computer Virus was from 1970/1, the Creeper Virus, which infected the PDP10 Mainframe from DEC. The real "Virus-Time" was starting in the 1980's! One of the first Anti-Virus Software was written for Atari ST 1986 or 87 in Germany. The same year McAfee started his company and, and, and! In around 1980, Apple has let produce the first version of Virex for it's Unix OS. In the following, there was quite some production of new Viren for the the Apple OS, later followed by Viren for the PC OS'es, like DOS, Commodore, and others. That the production for Apple's OS'es wasn't going up as for the normal PC OS'es, was because of the strict use of a very low range of Hardware by Apple, which was much more easy to control as for the 'normal' PC's because of the huge variety of Hardware in use. That outcome has its effect until today. If Apple has a much higher market share and would use much more different hardware, the rate of availability and infection of Viren for the Appel OS(X) would be much much higher! Still, from the till today available bigger companies, Apple was the first to get really 'infected' by Computer Viren.
And it all is just about this post: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...view-build-16278-pc.75019/page-2#post-1367404 Me stating the Expiration date aka timebomb is still there, And this post: https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...view-build-16278-pc.75019/page-3#post-1367596 Moderate stating that his/hers doesn't show one, and started about grace periods and kms activation.
NO, no confusion! Just, on the end of the day, the classification Time-Bomb is just simply the best and most common name for the outcome. It simply is a single name for many others, which have the same outcome one day! But that's MDL: many users/members have nothing else in mind as to find anything to argue about! Not very intelligent just a normal human nature.
Just a question. If you install Pro insider build with skip ahead, then change to enterprise insider build with skip ahead will you still get updates.
AGAIN: Expiration (time bomb) IS NOT THE SAME as (any) Grace!!! If the expiration date is passed, the system becomes COMPLETELY unusable. Whereas after Grace is gone, the system will start to nag regarding activation, but the system is still usable (with some restrictions).
Please read the 2. and 3. paragraph again to understand what I meaning. I really don't like to argue! Thanks.
OT: Don't expect next week a new build until Tuesday/Wednesday (At least) it's Labour Day in the USA (Monday, 4th September)
I really didn't like to argue, as I didn't like to finger-point on any mistakes others are doing, writing wrong, using their own description or whatsoever! That's why I wrote that 2 sentences in Post #92! @s1ave77: And I really wonder that I've to explain that to YOU also, not to those others as before, I wasn't thinking you would be same?! Nevermind, human nature, as I wrote, is simply unpredictable in many means! Sorry!
Even after re-reading countless times; my answer stays the same . Especially paragraph 3 simply negates any answers as legit, without any proof. Not to mention the the passive-aggressive claim in last sentence. Typical when you have no valid arguments.
@s1ave77: Have you ever start thinking about why so many old valued members are disappeared on MDL? You should do that! You're now as many others: finger-pointing on whatever could be not right (in the viewer's eye (yours))! I'm just an imperfect human, as I classify myself in below my username here at MDL! And I know that and even like to be just that!
what im trying to say...i would not waste my time activating any insider build with a activator is a waste of time.