[DISCUSSION] Windows 11 Official Build 22000.xxx (PC) [co_release]

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by Enthousiast, Jun 28, 2021.

  1. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    and now theyre blocking the windows 11 installed systems that do not have the crap tpm and sht so they can not stay in the "test" channel.. they advice to roll back to windows 10...

    it seems like they will indeed figure a way of blocking everyone that try to install windows 11 on not supported hardwares...

    hello kde neon, i missed you.. lets be friends again?
     
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  2. PolidelticusFire

    PolidelticusFire MDL Addicted

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    Give Fedora a try.
     
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  3. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    I hate Fedora.. :p I prefer *buntus or Deepin..
     
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  4. mrbbq

    mrbbq MDL Addicted

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    Except they've said they won't. You just won't get updates.
     
  5. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Only by the official way (WU in the IP program), when you simply install 22000.xxxx (fixed) you will get all updates offered for it without any enrollment in any channels.

    The updates don't check for the requirements atm.

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...urther-any-workaround-yet.84048/#post-1686018
     
  6. MrAnalysis

    MrAnalysis MDL Senior Member

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    Meh, turning out like the phone market only not as bad.

    Wont effect me as I recently built a system. Even if i was on an older unsupported system i would just stay on Windows 10 till I did get a new system (Windows 10 is supported for years, i doubt i would still be on same PC). Failing that if i must have Windows 11 for some reason and I was on an old system i would just manually install the updates? Surly someone will make a script and program that pulls down the security updates for unsupported systems unable to get them via Windows update anyways automating all of that?
     
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  7. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    It´s funny how people complains about MS and win 11 and then say " i will change my OS to a random Linux distribution"
    while they can perfectly rollback to win 10 that is a good system to everyday use... :rolleyes:
     
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  8. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    The only thing I can really think of is that there is some kind of cache size or controller standard. Admittedly that falls apart because they would specify NVMe versions and data transfer minimums like the PS5 drive replacement requirement that needs NVMe4.
    It could just be that the whole thing is arbitrary and that NVMe is arbitrary itself to set a kind-of speed requirement to reduce stutter compared to SSDs.
     
  9. SAM-R

    SAM-R MDL Guru

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    If any of you haven't figured it out by now, Marketing dictates what Microsoft does. Marketing is the one that set the 5 Oct. date for Win 11
     
  10. Espionage724

    Espionage724 MDL Expert

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    From what I've seen with a SK hynix P31, if I use the standard controller driver on W10 and W11 (22000.160), it'll only assign up to 17 IRQs. If I install a controller driver from Phison or Samsung, I get 33 IRQs. The overall performance difference isn't notable (the other two drivers do bench a tiny bit higher).

    Having to use an "outdated" OS isn't my style. I meet the requirements for W11 and don't really have to worry about it, but if I couldn't run it without having to modify some ISO or have to hack update availability, I'd switch to the next LTSC release. And if that wasn't viable for some reason, I'd go right back to using Linux.

    I switched to Linux primarily back when W10 first came out because of the mess it was, and was fine for years. Only relatively recently came back to Windows when I got a VR headset that couldn't run in any usable manner on Linux (Rift CV1; OpenHMD wasn't good back then). I have a Oculus Quest 2 now which mostly worked with ALVR on Linux last I checked a few weeks ago.

    Fedora was my favorite distro for a while, but I prefer openSUSE Tumbleweed nowadays.
     
  11. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    Win 10 will have support till 2025 (correct me if wrong) so, no "outdated" OS at all
     
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  12. yro

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  13. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    random linux distro? ubuntu, fedora, deepin, debian, pop_os, etc., are all estabilished distros and all works out of the box..

    stay at an outdated os is not my thing. or i can upgrade to windows 11 (clean install or whatever) or its a no go for me. if microsoft continues with this idiot aproach when it comes to "unsuported hardwares", that says to me that microsoft wnats me to f#$ myself with my 3 years old pc that can run windows 11 literaly with no effort what so ever.. so, if they want me to upgrade just because i dont have a crap module that ill never use or a crap aproach il never use (secure boot), than whats the road to go on for me? the only alternative is linux.. ill not buy a new pc nor an insignificant module thats expensive as hell these days..
     
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  14. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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  15. W_fantasma

    W_fantasma MDL Senior Member

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    So, all of them are not random Linux distros?
    as i said a few post before, win 10 will have support till 2025...
     
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  16. Espionage724

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    What kind of support will it have? I imagine it'll end up like the current LTSC where it's just getting security updates, but any "new" stuff will only be dropped on W11, making it more appealing. MS wants people on the latest available OS.

    I'd be using current LTSC now, but the Ryzen scheduler improvements aren't on it, hence making it not appealing to use.
     
  17. TECHNOMAN

    TECHNOMAN MDL Senior Member

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    do we expect a new build this week
     
  18. yro

    yro MDL Addicted

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    outdated os is not for me dude...
     
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  19. boyonthebus

    boyonthebus MDL Expert

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    I always expect a new build. Whether or not one is delivered is up to Microsoft.
     
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