laptop won't boot windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by lynchknot, Jun 20, 2026.

  1. CaptainKirk1966

    CaptainKirk1966 One of the Green Guys
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    You should really just clean up that disk, do a complete reinstall, and get on with your life. Hopefully, damage from that swollen battery is limited to just a bad arrow key.
     
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    Doman MDL Novice

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    Yeah, don't we all?
    It is useless
    You can use Open Shell may be?
    Many use this here.
     
  4. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

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    worse than that is 25h2 Home page. Nothing works for navigating on that laptop. I can't even get to my drives at all. Is there another route?
     
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    lynchknot MDL Member

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    Open Shell? I've never heard of it. I'll search for it....
     
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    #69 Doman, Jul 11, 2026
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    Really, lol where/what have you been doing/suffering all that time. ;)
    Open Shell, former/reborn Classic Shell.
    It is used here around a lot for many many years without problems.
    ExplorerPatcher is probably also nice but too often Windows updates can break it (too) easily.

    Make backup/image of your system drive and do a offline ISO In-place Repair Upgrade Install which should keep all your programs and settings.
    I am doing this myself so many times to fix all sorts of issues with Windows 10/11.
    If that fixes nothing it is really time to nuke/wipe and start over with a clean install.
     
  8. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

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    Well, I haven't been here which may be why i'm far behind.
    I can't do an upgrade on my (unqualified) laptop. It won't save apps and files after I upgraded to . I want to revert back to windows 10 but with ioT enterprise. I'll have to get a large external HD to backup.
     
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    #71 hoak, Jul 15, 2026
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    From your partition wizard screenshot it looks like you only have 1.5TB of total disk space which is not that large. It seems very doubtful that there could even be 1Tb of critical user data, that could be backed up to two 512Gb USB FLASH drives which can be had for about $25-30US total. Not having an external back-up of your data, especially for a laptop is a wholesale recipe for disaster -- unless you'd be perfectly happy and fine losing all of it.
     
  10. Mavericks Choice

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    Agree, I never store any files of value on a PC or laptop internal HD period, always save to a separate drive or server.
     
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    #73 lynchknot, Jul 16, 2026
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    new10.jpg I finally did a clean install of win10 ioT enterprise. The strange thing is when the laptop rebooted it asked me which operating system I wanted to pick: 10 or 11. edit - how did this and all these files get in there?
     
  12. hoak

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    #74 hoak, Jul 16, 2026
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    I suspect because you did not read, understand or follow my third post in this thread, did not properly wipe partition data from your: install > upgrade > rollback > system restore > update > uninstall > reinstall experiment/escapade -- so what you have in no way resembles a clean install of Windows. As well you're using third party partition tools that either do not properly see, address and/or respect Windows partition data the way Windows sees it.

    The only way to do this right, and get a truly CLEAN Windows install, is to start over, back-up all your important data, wipe all SDDs on this system with Windows DISKPART which is the only tool that will properly see your Windows partition table data installed by all your experiments as Windows sees it, and clean it properly, and lets you install properly -- reposted again for clarity:

    Boot with your Windows 10 IoT LTSC install USB and hit SHIFT+F10 to open a command prompt at the first setup screen and type:

    Type "diskpart" and press Enter to launch the DiskPart utility.
    Type "list disk" and press Enter to see a list of all disks on your system.
    Identify the disk that you want to delete all partitions from. Make sure you choose the correct disk, as all data on the disk will be permanently deleted.
    Type "select disk X" (replace X with the disk number) and press Enter to select the disk.
    Type "clean" and press Enter to remove all partitions and volumes from the selected disk.
    Type "exit" and press Enter to close the DiskPart utility.

    NTFS and Windows partitioning scheme is proprietary -- using third party tools like Mini Tool Partition Wizard may be easier, but it's also CSS proprietary software and makes a lot of assumptions about Windows partition table data that can make things worse and even unrecoverable -- especially so with the bad science project that's gone on here...

    Once you've completely wiped both SSDs with DISKPART "CLEAN" or "CLEAN ALL" I'd suggest installing Windows 10 IoT LTSC to the smaller of the two SSDs, and using the larger one for data only, that way if you need to you can easily reinstall Windows without all this monkey motion, leave the larger disk untouched, and have a lot more clarity about what's going on -- you can even format the larger SSD with ReFS which is Microsoft's newer file system for storing data that's more robust than NTFS if you like which will prevent a lot of these hassles in the future as Windows 10 can't be installed on ReFS.

    Also a faster and better recovery method is to disable System Restore (it's very broken and invokes a substantial performance hit) once you have a nice clean install of Windows you like, configured the way you like, image it with any number of free Image tools like Acronis -- then if things go bad all you have to do is roll the image back on the system which typically takes less than a minute, and you have an install as clean and tidy as the day you did the clean install...

    I truly hope this shaggy dog epic has a happy ending... At least aliens haven't landed and hair isn't growing out of your laptop!
     
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    #75 Doman, Jul 16, 2026
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    I see no reason at all to wipe/delete also the 2nd SSD with only a data partition.
    Only extra work to backup/restore.
    But then of course should have a backup anyway of all important stuff.
    Just wipe delete the Windows SSD partitions and let Windows recreate them from the setup.
    You also should be able to do that from the Windows setup.
     
  14. shhnedo

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    Because you likely did not perform an actual clean install.
    Assuming you're booting in UEFI, a clean install means you delete the MSR, EFI, C:\ and Recovery partitions, then just select the newly formed unallocated space and press Enter.
     
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    #77 hoak, Jul 16, 2026
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    The reason it makes sense is he has done many in-place installs, upgrades, rollbacks, restores and updates -- no clean installs at all... Just looking at what his partition data is reporting (albeit from crummy third party software) he has parts of install partitions on both SSDs, and iirc has also been moving partition data around with Mini Tool Partition Wizard which is not great... This is a mess...
     
  16. CaptainKirk1966

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    Reading this thread is like some sort of torture. In post #40 it looked to me like only disk 1 would need to have all partitions deleted before reinstalling. Who knows what has happened since?
     
  17. CaptainKirk1966

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    Disk 2 in post 40 appeared to be a usb drive. Just unplug it, especially if the laptop only has one internal drive. If more than one internal drive, then yes, clean them all.