MS Latest threat.

Discussion in 'Windows 11' started by The.Rock, Aug 28, 2021.

  1. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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  2. misantropic

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    Hm so is there any solution for now?
     
  3. DavidinCT

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    #43 DavidinCT, Oct 4, 2021
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    End of life on a PC is when the computer is too slow, or cant perform the job you need it to do, in a reasonable time or performance level (this would include gaming). I think most people would agree here.

    My gaming PC is based on a Intel 5820, 3.3ghz, 6 core with 32gb ram. It's gaming PC that will run 99% of the games out there in Ultra mode. It performs awesome... Sure it's a little older but, it runs flawlessly, I see no NEED to upgrade for the things I do, including modern gaming.

    Not supported...LOL, Unless Microsoft releases a update that allows these PCs, I guess this gaming PC will stay on Windows 10 for a long time. No way in the world am I going to spend $1k+ (chips are crazy money right now and I never do a cheap system) just to run Windows 11

    The big reason for gaming for people to move to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1 was DirectX 12, it was not supported on older OSs and newer CPUs... Windows 11 does not offer anything more on this end at least.

    Not going to install with a hack, that could be broken by a update, or lack of security updates..

    Yep, saw this on my Vmware test machine... Oh, well..
     
  4. Enthousiast

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    Why does the majority run 22000.xxx on ancient machines and all get all updates offered?

    What was the error message you got?

    LCU's don't check for any of the requirements.
     
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  5. Hadron-Curious

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    Actually, I didn't get any error messages. It is obvious at the Window Update Settings.
     
  6. Enthousiast

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    You mean when being enrolled into the IP channels? Even without any enrollment all ssu/lcu and ndp48 cu's are freely offered on WU. Only some new features require IP enrollment but that should be over soon too.
     
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  7. Hadron-Curious

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    Without enrolling in the Insider Preview. In fact, I tried a lot of ISOs starting from Build 21996 to 22000. They all behaved the same way when installed newly on unsupported devices. I could only receive Windows Security on all the devices not a single CU came through.
     
  8. Enthousiast

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    I (and many with me) have been running 22000.xxx for quite some time now, on a few 10+ year old laptops and in vmware and all updates came thru.
     
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  9. Hadron-Curious

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    My point was that when installed newly on unsupported devices. Perhaps, you can replicate that if you have unsupported device which has not been used for Windows 11 before or enrolled in IP.
     
  10. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I can tell you that when installing any of the 22000.xxx builds and you're connected during OOBE, it will install the latest LCU.

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...channel-co_release.83722/page-79#post-1673711

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...channel-co_release.83722/page-79#post-1673727

    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...hannel-co_release.83722/page-251#post-1689602
     
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  11. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I can confirm this as at 04/10/2021 that Windows 11 CU update can not get through. I still have one of the devices on Build 21996 observing why MS is not providing CUs. I installed Linux on the other one which was previously on 22000.XXX
     
  12. abbodi1406

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    21996 is not official build, it will never get any updates
     
  13. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    Okay. But it received Windows Security updates twice today.
     
  14. abbodi1406

    abbodi1406 MDL KB0000001

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    Windows Defender updates are not updates
     
  15. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    Ha! I thought as much. However, they were offered through the Windows Update . I can tell I had the same problem with the other device now on Linux.
     
  16. FrantaPovidlo

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    This whole TPM restriction is weird. Maybe it's more like somebody expects unique PC identificator for their agenda. MS is pushing whole idea to the next level with their own chip challed Microsoft Pluton which will be embedded in the upcoming CPU's - Intel, AMD, Qualcomm. For example in new AMD APU's - Van Goth, Dragon Crest, Rembrandt.