1. monstrocity

    monstrocity MDL Junior Member

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    Install the language pack after you set up your system (post-install). I also need the Korean pack on LTSC, and it's the easiest way to install it. You don't need to integrate it into the image unless you absolutely need Korean OOBE at setup or you're completely disabling Windows updates. The way language packs (FOD) are handled nowadays, it's not worth the headache IMHO.
     
  2. Arlik

    Arlik MDL Novice

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    #23622 Arlik, Sep 5, 2022
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    Hello
    I would like to I if I have miss anything for de-bloating my Win 11 22000.194 and 22000.318 iso
    If I used any version of 12.X, the outputted ISO will work in most case, except doing Windows update for KB5016629 (22000.856), nor KB5016691 (22000.918). Both update will fail.
    I have try google for solution, sfc /scannow, restart windows update services etc. all are not working

    but the one I used version 11.8 is find, but there are still some bloatware cannot be removed by 11.8
     
  3. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Expert

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    It would've been helpful of you to actually make a list of the components you chopped off. Also, read the changelog for the toolkit so you know which builds are supported.
     
  4. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Just read the dism log and cbs log after the failed update, to have a clue of what went wrong.

    Aside that there is little point in de bloating an image just to rebloat it in a month or less using a CU.

    Just keep the updates disabled, then in 3/4/5 months or so redo a new custom image an do an in place upgrade.

    (or even better use Win11 server which comes with way less bloat out of the box (more or less the same level of LTSC)
     
  5. 4MySanity

    4MySanity MDL Novice

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    Is there a way I can disable all compression in the MSMG Toolkit? I noticed it does WIM compression with "max" when applying and saving.

    Does ESD compression affect final install performance at all? Like would you get any benefits from going with 0 compression?
     
  6. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Compression of the WIM or ESD affects the ESD size and the time needed to build it.

    The fille system stored inside the ESD is a different matter, if is not compressed will be applied as non compressed, unless you use a switch to apply it compressed (which I strongly suggest if you are deploying the OS on SSD to have a faster system taking 1/3 of the space if using the LZX compression.)

    We are not in the days of Win 3.11 anymore, when compression killed the performance (and sometimes the HDDs). A compressed FS in a computer built in the last 15 years and using a SSD is usually faster, in the worst scenario is on par with the uncompressed FS.
     
  7. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    It's just a template, the support for Windows 11 10.0.22622 will be added in future.
     
  8. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Adding updates after component removal will restore the removed components except the Windows Apps.
     
  9. MSMG

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    What Toolkit version you did used and did you removed the components ?

    The current version supports only v10.0.22621.1 / v10.0.22621.382 builds
     
  10. MSMG

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    Required files for Boot.wim, Winre.wim

    Code:
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\WinPE-Setup-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\WinPE-Setup-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\WinPE-Setup-Server-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-WinPE-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-AppxPackaging-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-ATBroker-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-AudioCore-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-AudioDrivers-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-EnhancedStorage-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-FontSupport-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-HTA-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Narrator-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-OpcServices-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Rejuv-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Scripting-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-SecureStartup-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Setup-Client-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Setup-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Setup-Server-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Speech-TTS-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-Speech-TTS-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-SRH-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-SRT-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-StorageWMI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-WDS-Tools-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-WiFi-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\WinPE-WMI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    

    Required files for install.wim (client/server)

    Code:
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    

    Required files for install.wim (client)

    Code:
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    

    Required files for install.wim (server)

    Code:
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-Server-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    


    In your case make sure these files do exist for integrating language pack for install.wim

    Code:
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    Packs\LanguagePacks\w10\10.0.19041\x64\ko-KR\Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-ko-KR-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1.cab
    


    Tested ko-KR Language Pack for W10 10.0.19041.1 Pro image

    Code:
    
    ===============================================================================
     MSMG ToolKit - Integrate Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image
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    ####Starting Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image##
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        Image                    : Install.wim
        Image Index              : 9
        Image Architecture       : x64
        Image Version            : 10.0.19041.1.0
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image###########
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    ===========================[Install.wim, Index : 9]============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Pack [ko-KR]...
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Basic Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Handwriting Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - OCR Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Text To Speech Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Updating Windows Setup language configuration file [Lang.ini]...
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    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19041.1
    
    
    A new Lang.ini file has been generated
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Generating Windows Language Packs Integration Log File...
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    Writing Windows Language Packs Integration Log...
    
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    Integrating [ko-KR] Localized Windows Setup resources to Source DVD...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Extracting Windows Language Pack [ko-KR] to Temporary folder...
    
    Copying Localized Windows Setup resources files to the Source DVD...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Cleaning Up Temporary Files & Folders######################################
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    Cleaning Up Temporary folder...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image##
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
    


    Tested ko-KR Language Pack for W10 10.0.19045.1949 Pro image

    Code:
    ===============================================================================
     MSMG ToolKit - Integrate Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image
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    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Starting Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image##
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
        Image                    : Install.wim
        Image Index              : 1
        Image Architecture       : x64
        Image Version            : 10.0.19045.1949.0
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image###########
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===========================[Install.wim, Index : 1]============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~ko-KR~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Basic Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Basic-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Handwriting Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-Handwriting-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - OCR Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-OCR-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows Language Features - Text To Speech Pack [ko-KR]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-LanguageFeatures-TextToSpeech-ko-kr-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Updating Windows Setup language configuration file [Lang.ini]...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25182.1000
    
    Image Version: 10.0.19045.1949
    
    
    A new Lang.ini file has been generated
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Generating Windows Language Packs Integration Log File...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Writing Windows Language Packs Integration Log...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating [ko-KR] Localized Windows Setup resources to Source DVD...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Extracting Windows Language Pack [ko-KR] to Temporary folder...
    
    Copying Localized Windows Setup resources files to the Source DVD...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Cleaning Up Temporary Files & Folders######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Cleaning Up Temporary folder...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Finished Integrating Windows Language Packs to Windows Installation Image##
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue . . .
    
     
  11. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Since the new update package format contains new mum and manifests for removed components, it's difficult to block the restoration of removed components.
     
  12. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    The current version only supports W11 v10.0.22000.1 / v10.0.22000.856
     
  13. Chuundar

    Chuundar MDL Novice

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    trust you are well.. i would be attempting a barebones strip of win 10 21h2. the use case is pure offline gming. i will be using ps/2 peripherals and a dvd rom, there wont be any other external IO devices attache dto the computer (other than a monitor/graphics card if you could call that). so i can afford to break the windows install, security/connectivity/upgradability etc. arent big concerns atm..

    which among msmg/ntlite would be a superior option for my use case?
     
  14. 4MySanity

    4MySanity MDL Novice

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    How can I enable the switch to apply it compressed?

    So are you saying that compressed (fast, max, recovery, etc) would actually increase performance of the final install on an SSD?
     
  15. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    I use wimlib not dism for that, something like

    X:\wimlib-1.13.3-windows-x86_64-bin\wimlib-imagex.exe apply Y:\ltsc-19045.wim Z:\ --compact=lzx

    Exactly.

    A 486 was already powerful enough to manage the on the fly compression w/o sweating (everything became slow at the time because the FS fragmentation on mechanical disks, not because the CPU overhead),

    And now the CPUs are thousand of times faster. While mass storage is still relatively slow. Even the fastest Optane drive is orders of magnitude slower than RAM (which in turn is slower than CPU cache).

    So yes compression means very little more work for the CPU while having one half or even one third of data to send/receive to/from the "slow" mass storage.
     
  16. andypig

    andypig MDL Novice

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    #23636 andypig, Sep 6, 2022
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    hmm... nvm

    I think who want to enable 22622 new feature then can
    -> make a 22621 ISO via UUP dump
    -> use MSMG toolkithelper debloat、edit wim file
    -> when done then increase KB5015669 patch, that finally should be 22622 full functions enabled install.wim

    It's a good idea :目
     
  17. gointern

    gointern MDL Novice

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    Just started experimenting. Have a few questions regarding customizating Windows 11 ISO.

    Is it possible to remove start menu app advertisements? I applied custom start menu layout however, it didn't seem to work.
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    Is it possible to get rid of Edge browser first run prompts?
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    Lol, given it's been near on 4 years since the release of 1809 I'd say it's darned impossible, not difficult.
    I think if no-one's figured out by now they are never going to find a way to stop restoration of all the garbage.

    Given everything released since 1809 is nothing more than bugs, more telemetry, bloat and malware, there really is no compelling reason to go past 1809.
     
  20. inTerActionVRI

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    The same thing occurs on Android.

    WebView ends up becoming a framework for various apps and becomes a prerequisite like: VC ++ Runtime and .NET Framework.

    It is very interesting to put as separate components.