1. raptorddd

    raptorddd MDL Addicted

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    at first i tought the same. that pro would be more resource heavy. why.? because it as hyperV
    and i tought home was a lighter version. and at the same time i tought PRO was lighter it has PRO in it. but i did research and read that they are the same on resources but pro has more useful options. like gpedit. ect.
     
  2. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    the pro SKU has more features.
    it gives you more control over your updates
    it also has more features that can be disabled by group policy.
    which may ease the load
    unless it's changed, it also allows you to install without a ms account?
    but since you are an msmg user, then that last item is a n/a
    Majid
     
  3. Your thought is exactly what i thought, i dont even know what hyperV is and what can i do with it.. i only use my laptop for school works. I thought pro edition is for those who are working with IT things... not a home user like me.
     
  4. Thanks for explaining me the different between home and pro edition ... are u from malaysia? Ur name is so familiar in my ears, iam from indonesia... nice to meet u :bye3:
     
  5. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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  6. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    hyper-v is the answer to vmware.
    from microsoft.
    it's used to host virtual machines.
    since it's not accessible it's of no use to me.
    what I mean by not accessible?
    a default virtual sound device is not added to a virtual machine.
    in products like vmware workstation or even virtualbox, a default virtual sound device is added so that you are able to listen to the output of the vm's audio.
    since i'm blind and require audio on first boot, hyper-v is for me useless.
    Majid
     
  7. raptorddd

    raptorddd MDL Addicted

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    hyper-v is windows own virtual machine.. you can install your MSMG ISO you made and test it. so no need to clean install windows to try the ISO.
     
  8. amnester

    amnester MDL Junior Member

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    MSMG Hello! Rechecked! After uninstalling Windows Update, manual driver installation works!!! It was my problem with the image! Sorry for the wrong information!
     
  9. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    @amnester
    thank you so much for conferming that everything works!
    it was stopping me from using the dev toolkit version to remove wu.
    i'll give it ago now.
    Majid
     
  10. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    component updates for the interested.
    unless things change between now and the official release of the next version of toolkit, here's what the test version of toolkithelper supports in the arreena of package purgeing.
    new packages.
    WindowsUpdate - Windows Update
    AdvertisingXaml - Microsoft Advertising SDK for XAML
    NETNativeFramework17 - Microsoft .Net Native Framework Package 1.7
    NETNativeFramework22 - Microsoft .Net Native Framework Package 2.2
    NETNativeRuntime17 - Microsoft .Net Native Runtime Package 1.7
    NETNativeRuntime22 - Microsoft .Net Native Runtime Package 2.2
    UIXaml20 - Microsoft UI.Xaml Package 2.0
    VCLibs140 - Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 UWP Runtime Package
    VCLibs140UWPDesktop - Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 UWP Desktop Runtime Package
     
  11. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    AdvertisingXaml is an old component which already present in the previous versions maybe you didn't notice it.

    NETNativeFramework, NETNativeRuntime, UIXaml, VCLibs140 are still unfinished, it needs further testing.
     
  12. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    @MSMG cheers for the update sir!
     
  13. pacoolio

    pacoolio MDL Member

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    @MSMG
    Please include in the latest toolkit following builds: Windows 10 LTSC 2019 Build [17763.4131] and Windows 10 LTSC 2021 [19044.2728]
    Thank you in advanced for the Magic-Toolkit.
     
  14. imlost2

    imlost2 MDL Member

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    #25034 imlost2, Mar 15, 2023
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    I'm posting my results for MSMG using Windows 11 Pro for Workstations, build 22621-22H2 and Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, both regular and version "N", 19041-2004.

    My goal for all OSs was to remove: (1) OneDrive, (2) Windows Media Player, (3) Windows Defender (4) Photo Viewer, (5) IE & Edge (6) Networking components like Telnet and TFTP (7) MS Store and Xbox and (8) anti-privacy components. I kept almost everything else, including Windows Firewall and Linux subsystem. Per member @acer-1500, MSMG v12.1 is recommended for Windows 10, build 19041. All of my other tests used MSMG v.13.2. Windows 11 Pro for Workstations was also briefly tested W11_22000-21H2, with results similar to Build 22621-22H2, except that it has less aggressive OS updates and "Home" can be removed from Navigation pane. Again, this was MY personal experience, your mileage may vary.

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    Windows 10 Pro N for Workstations, 19041-2004
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  15. Tammy_Robot

    Tammy_Robot MDL Novice

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    #25035 Tammy_Robot, Mar 15, 2023
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    Anyone know how to Disable certain Scheduled Tasks while customizing your install media with MSMG?

    For example, I have these Scheduled Tasks I'd like to have disabled before first system boot:

    \UpdateOrchestrator\Report policies
    \UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan
    \UpdateOrchestrator\Schedule Scan Static Task
    \UpdateOrchestrator\UpdateModelTask
    \UpdateOrchestrator\USO_UxBroker
    \WaaSMedic\PerformRemediation
    \WindowsUpdate\Scheduled Start

    P.S. What does the MSMG acronym stand for? Thanks!
     
  16. imlost2

    imlost2 MDL Member

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    #25036 imlost2, Mar 15, 2023
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2023
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  17. Tammy_Robot

    Tammy_Robot MDL Novice

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    Hey thanks, I appreciate that. I honestly thought it would be more simple, like a registry or file import. I tried importing some of the C:\Windows\System32\Tasks after disabling the tasks, but no dice. They're simple XML, but they aren't sticking on the final image.

    I'll probably just end up doing it manually on each deployment (not too many, manageable).
     
  18. imlost2

    imlost2 MDL Member

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    You can probably change the
    Code:
    <Enabled>true</Enabled>
    flag in the .XML file to "false" to disable it. But I don't know why you would want to do that. It's much easier to run a batch script after installation to disable those 7 tasks you want stopped.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  19. tosgaba

    tosgaba MDL Junior Member

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    Hi, maybe I've read somewhere but can someone tell me is it possible to remove components with toolkithelper.exe (with MSMG v13.2) method from a .1607 image?
    Or do I have to use Toolkit v8.8 in order to service that specific image?
    Thanks in advance