1. roedel

    roedel MDL Junior Member

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    Does somebody know what breaks the normal windows setup?

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    I know I´ve seen it here, but I can´t find it :(
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  2. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    In Windows 10 this was related to the removal of Cortana, or any Component that Cortana depends on to function.
    So in that case, you would have to keep "Cortana", "SpeechRecognition" and disable Cortana in the tweaks.
    But that would be just for you to be able to test, because if I'm not mistaken, the MSMG already fixed it. But in new updates there might be some changes and the problem returned.
     
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    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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  4. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    To do an in-place upgrade I need to keep the manual setup component, right?
    Is that all?
     
  5. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    #25665 inTerActionVRI, Jun 17, 2023
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    Yes, and the Manual Setup depends on WinRe.wim. So dont remove It.

    You were the one who said this thing of duplicate registry happened, weren't you?
    If so, I have a question for you.
    If not, never mind.

    How do you check if the registry has duplicated something after in-place update?

    Thank you in advance!
     
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  6. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    Yes, that was me.

    For the last 4 months my sons brand new PC has been getting occasional BSODs and frequent freezing. We've replaced every hardware component and I even loaned him a new PC and we can't figure out what is going on. Updated the BIOS several times, updated all drivers and nothing works.

    He's using an image with the 2023-03 patch (2728).
    All I kept was all accessibility tools, IE, Search, Paint, Firewall, Windows update (though it's disabled), Net 6, 3.5, Notepad, Capture picker and Webview2Sdk.

    So I'm now at the bottom of the barrel. Without reinstalling from scratch again the only thing I can try is an in place upgrade. I'm hoping it doesn't solve the problem bceause of the issues I have with in place upgrades.

    When I am going to upgrade a PC I backup the registry settings for all installed programs and games. I then do a full export of HKCU and HKLM.
    I can then interrogate those registry hives and figure out if the client has added any new programs and games that I need to cater for.
    As I looked through the registry backups I noticed that the keys were concatenated. I asked my son about it and he said he had upgraded from 1809 to 1903 then 1909 the 20h1 via Windows update.
    Every time he upgraded over the top of his installation many registry keys got concatenated more.

    (This is a make believe keys as an example).

    so HKCU\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz became HKCU\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz\corey\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz
    Then HKCU\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz\corey\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz\corey\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz\corey\Software\steam\steamapps\xyz
    and so on.

    I restored him back to 1809 and then an inplace upgrade to prove it, and sure enough, the registry keys got concatenated again.

    I have no idea why (I've only ever seen this with Windows 10), and I have no clue how to fix it. So I just stuck with clean installs.
     
  7. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    If you create a new user on a machine that has received so many updates, the new user is clean but I believe it continues to support the installed software.

    That would be a good test.

    I did this a long time ago. And just to keep the name of my username (it is possible to rename it, but I wanted something clean) I did the procedure of creating a new local user. I entered with a winpe, copied the user folder, restarted the machine in that provisional user that was created, deleted my default user and created it again with the same name.

    Remember one thing, move user folders (documents, downloads, images, music, videos) to another place out of \users\user will improve the in-place update performance.
    Especially if more than 50% of the storage is full. Backup tries to automate this, but it takes too long.
     
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  8. heller390

    heller390 MDL Novice

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    @inTerActionVRI any idea how to solve this error ? Its not allowing me to change any optional features like enabling, disabling of optional features! Is it happening since i disabled windows updates while creating the debloated iso?
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  9. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Did you disable (apply the tweak) or did you remove the "Windows Update" component?
     
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  10. heller390

    heller390 MDL Novice

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    Applied via tweak
     
  11. imlost2

    imlost2 MDL Member

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    @ MSMG & @ inTerActionVRI
    I've developed an MSMG guide in html format I'd like you guys to take a look at before posting. Is there a way to PM it to you?
     
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  12. weller73

    weller73 MDL Novice

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    Does anyone know which option to keep in the msmg tool for Internet options in the control panel? I need that, I only have Network and Sharing.
    I tried several options but without success :confused:
     
  13. heller390

    heller390 MDL Novice

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    I think u shouldnt nuke WiFiNetworkManager
     
  14. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    I just help MSMG when I can and work in my custom project based on his project.

    This you should explain to him and inform here, in the thread, you had sent him a PM/DM.

    Thnx, imlost2!
     
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  15. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    #25675 inTerActionVRI, Jun 17, 2023
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    Your MS Store Downloads and UWP apps updates are working well?
     
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  16. DennyAmaro

    DennyAmaro MDL Junior Member

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    Hi @inTerActionVRI I test here and ClientCBS it seems to be required to windows search work in W11.
     
  17. heller390

    heller390 MDL Novice

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    MS store opens fine and just now installed camera and netflix app just for checking. Can I download those files offline and enable or disable those features via powershell or cmdline ?
     
  18. weller73

    weller73 MDL Novice

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    I tried it and it's still the same, no Internet Options
     
  19. heller390

    heller390 MDL Novice

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    Have u tried installing ethernet & wifi drivers ?
     
  20. weller73

    weller73 MDL Novice

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    #25680 weller73, Jun 18, 2023
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    I found the problem! Internet Explorer must be kept in order to have Internet Options o_O