1. miketunes

    miketunes MDL Novice

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    Great, I'm testing now. Which of these options would I chose?
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  2. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Code:
    [2] Integrate ->
        [4] Windows Updates ->
            [2] Integrate WHD Update Pack ->
                [1] Integrate WHD General Updates ->
                    Select one of the options below depending on the images you mounted.
                    [2] Integrate to Windows install.wim Image
                    [3] Integrate to Windows Setup Install & Recovery Image
                    [4] Integrate to Windows Setup Boot, Install & Recovery Image
    
    
    If you have boot.wim image mounted...
    [2] Integrate ->
        [4] Windows Updates ->
                [3] Integrate Windows Setup Media Updates ->
    
     
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  3. Knives*

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    General question regarding the removal of Windows components from an ISO and integrating Windows updates into the ISO:

    Is it generally better to integrate Windows updates into an ISO first, then remove Windows components after? Or can I get away with removing components first then integrate updates later?

    I'm interested in people's experience. Thanks!
     
  4. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    #27244 inTerActionVRI, Sep 29, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2024
    If we could integrate updates after removal, it wouldn't make sense why we would need this feature.
    So, we would just need to make the ISO and finish the Windows update after the clean install.
    If that were the case, we would be very happy with Windows.

    But the reality is that when we install updates, several components that were already removed come back from the dead.
    Just follow the sequence of the Toolkit menus, it should be successful (only netfx3 that I usually integrate using Enable Features in the Customize Menu, instead of the Integrate Menu option. But for 24H2 even this is causing problems with Windows Update). The new updates for 24H2 are coming with complicated integration schemes, this is really a mess that changes the pattern every week (now there is a need to integrate a sequence of previous LCUs to follow a dependency checkpoint to work with more FoD updates and not to interrupt the rollback operations).
    Perhaps MSMG, besides being busy and lacking time, should wait for some stability from MS to change the integration method to 24H2.
    This is also the main reason why I have not yet released IMCK.

    In short:
    Using Windows Update after using component removal doesn't make sense, unless you only "remove components from the removal menu 8 that shouldn't return (big quotes here)".
    Otherwise, remove the unwanted components, disable Windows Update and do an Inplace Upgrade monthly with an updated ISO.
    There are users here who also have reservations about Inplace Upgrade. But for me it's the best option to maintain daily use if you have a lot of installations to be done in your work environment.
    If not, do clean installs and be happy.
     
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  5. Knives*

    Knives* MDL Member

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    Thanks, I'll integrate Windows updates first, then after that is done, remove components after. Makes sense.
     
  6. miketunes

    miketunes MDL Novice

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    Ok, so choose all of those options in order? 2, 3, 4 and then 3 after?
     
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    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    After enter
    [1] Integrate WHD General Updates ->
    You select ONE of...

    If you have mounted only install.wim. Please choose [2];
    If mounted install.wim & winre.wim (Recovery). You can choose [3] or [2];
    If mounted boot.wim, install.wim & winre.wim (Recovery). You can choose [4] or [3] or [2];
    It depends if you want to integrate updates for boot.wim or for winre.wim.
    Option [1] only for boot.wim, from [2] to [4], all of them will integrate for install.wim.


    This 2 -> 4 -> "[3] Integrate Windows Setup Media Updates" isn't in above options that follows the 2 -> 4 -> 2 -> 1 path.
     
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  8. miketunes

    miketunes MDL Novice

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    Ok, I tried options 4 since everything is mounted, it processed updates for quite awhile, but the final image is still 10.0.22621. These are the updates I extracted from the uup download package for updates, do they look correct?
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  9. imlost2

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    Sorry to interrupt this thread on updates; but I've been trying to speed up my clean install process using MSMG by formatting an M.2 drive for the install media instead of an USB SD card. The M.2 drive plugs into a USB 3.0 or 3.2 port and has much faster file transfer rates than my SD card. However, Windows setup complains that my install media needs some unspecified drivers, I assume for the M.2 drive it is already reading from. Windows won't go beyond the initial setup page. Anybody know what these drivers might be and whether I need to integrate them into the boot and setup image? I thought Windows 10 and 11 had built-in support for M.2 drives.
     
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  11. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Yep.
    Check if there wasn't errors in Updates Integration.
    Toolkit keep showing 22621.1, maybe until you go to Remove Components. Please install the ISO in VMs (Hyper-V or VirtualBOX or VMware).
     
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  12. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Have you tried to create the autounattend through toolkit itself?
    After create the autounattend file, you can copy, compare and edit the file created in DVD folder.
     
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    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    #27253 MIMMO61, Oct 2, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2024
    Thank you for this solution, I have never tried it and more than a year I have not used ToolKit.
    I kindly ask what is the sequence of the procedure.
    Thank you
     
  14. miketunes

    miketunes MDL Novice

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    Ok, I didn't remove any components, so you think it stays at 22621 until I remove something. I was actually installing the iso on a physical machine, wouldn't restoring installing it to a VM give me the same 22621 version? The logs are cleared but I can retry and check again for failures. Or if anyone can just provide me a working ISO, happy to pay a bounty.
     
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  16. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    There are an option on Main Menu. Just mount your ISO and use the Unattended option. There are no need to make changes in your ISO you can discard soon as you grab the autounattend.xml.
     
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    #27258 inTerActionVRI, Oct 3, 2024
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    Code:
    ===============================================================================
                       MSMG ToolKit - Integrate WHD General Updates
                    to Windows Setup Boot, Install & Recovery Images
    ===============================================================================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ##################Started Integrating WHD General Updates######################
    ##############to Windows Setup Boot, Install & Recovery Images##################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
        Image                    : Boot.wim         |  Install.wim   |  WinRE.wim
        Image Index              : 1, 2             |      1,2         |      1
        Image Architecture       : x64
        Image Version            : 10.0.22621.1.0
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Processing WHD General Updates Packages####################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Creating WHD General Updates Temporary folder...
    
    Extracting Update Package files to Temporary folder...
    
    Finished Extracting Update Package files to Temporary folder...
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Integrating WHD General Updates to Windows Setup Boot Image################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    =============================[Boot.wim, Index : 1]=============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Servicing Stack Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4245.1.4
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The changes due to package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245 requires the current servicing session to be reloaded.
    All the packages will be processed again.
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Cumulative Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4249.1.16
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 v22H2 Moment 4 Feature Enablement Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.2355.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    =============================[Boot.wim, Index : 2]=============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Servicing Stack Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4245.1.4
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The changes due to package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245 requires the current servicing session to be reloaded.
    All the packages will be processed again.
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Cumulative Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4249.1.16
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 v22H2 Moment 4 Feature Enablement Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.2355.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Safe OS Dynamic Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5037739~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.3518.1.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Dynamic Update for Sources...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Copying Windows 11 Dynamic Update for Sources to <DVD> folder.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Integrating WHD General Updates to Windows Setup Install Image#############
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===========================[Install.wim, Index : 1]============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Servicing Stack Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4245.1.4
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The changes due to package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245 requires the current servicing session to be reloaded.
    All the packages will be processed again.
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Cumulative Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4249.1.16
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Microsoft .NET Cumulative Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_DotNetRollup_481~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.9266.2
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 v22H2 Moment 4 Feature Enablement Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.2355.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    
    ===========================[Install.wim, Index : 2]============================
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Servicing Stack Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4245.1.4
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The changes due to package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245 requires the current servicing session to be reloaded.
    All the packages will be processed again.
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Cumulative Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4249.1.16
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Microsoft .NET Cumulative Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_DotNetRollup_481~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.9266.2
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 v22H2 Moment 4 Feature Enablement Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.4249
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.2355.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Integrating WHD General Updates to Windows Setup Recovery Image############
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Servicing Stack Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.4245.1.4
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The changes due to package Package_for_ServicingStack_4245 requires the current servicing session to be reloaded.
    All the packages will be processed again.
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 Safe OS Dynamic Update...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.1
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5037739~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.3518.1.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Integrating Windows 11 v22H2 Moment 4 Feature Enablement Update Package...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.26100.1
    
    Image Version: 10.0.22621.2420
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Package_for_KB5027397~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~22621.2355.1.1
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Generating WHD General Updates Integration Log File...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Writing WHD General Updates Integration Log.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Cleaning Up Temporary files & Folders######################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Cleaning Up WHD General Updates Temporary folder.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ##################Finished Integrating WHD General Updates#####################
    ##############to Windows Setup Boot, Install & Recovery Images#################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    ===============================================================================
    
    Press any key to continue...
    

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    This yellow part represents the version before integrating the updates.

    upload_2024-10-2_21-3-53.png
    This part selected in yellow does not represent anything, it is part of the script programming to display what is being done. But it may be that the "Enablement Package" was not integrated correctly due to it not being recognized. Needs @MSMG attention.

    upload_2024-10-2_21-22-27.png

    I looked for a function that is simple and fast, just to see the header.
    Here I could see that there is a problem. I have seen this happen in 18363, which remained 18362, and in 19042, 19043, 19044 and 19045, which remained 19041.
    It is only the way the build is identified that is inefficient after the integration of the "Enablement Package" and it is necessary to work around this by searching for this data in the Image registry.
    But there is one detail. The updates that really matter were integrated. Only the "Enablement Package" may not have been.

    I will save and test in the VM.

    EDIT 01:
    upload_2024-10-2_21-52-27.png

    Avoid integrating updates into boot.wim.

    EDIT 02:
    Check this out! The problem is only related to the display of messages by the Toolkit script.
    upload_2024-10-2_22-10-12.png
    upload_2024-10-2_22-11-1.png

    It is ok! 22631.4249.
     
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  18. inTerActionVRI

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    @imlost2, take a look on above EDIT 01.
     
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    @inTerActionVRI . OK. I never add updates to boot.wim. The question is, should I add drivers to boot.wim in addition to install.wim? I believe Windows is looking for either Intel RST drivers because my m.2 drive has no special drivers listed by the manufacturer.
     
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