News/Discussions On Windows Upcoming Products: W8.1Update-x;W365;WThreshold;Win9

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by FaiKee, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    It depends on how much money things cost.
    If games are cheaper when compiled to run on the steamos, people would use it just for that purpose.
    Their 500$ debut stuff seems a bit overpriced for courting users.
    If they got them in the 200-300$ range, they'd be worthwhile.
     
  2. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Exactly. People bad-mouth Linux because almost nobody uses it, and vise versa.
    Really the situation in Munich would have turned out much more differently if more people decided to follow their lead and start using Linux.
    The more people use it, the more support you get.
     
  3. JohnyGS

    JohnyGS MDL Member

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    It's like @EFA11 said:
    Nothing against Linux! but in today's world where people are living to give clicks with the mouse and touch screen, a change is very .. more difficult to occur.
     
  4. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Money talks. A lot of the same people who refuse to use Win8 because of the metro nonsense are the same people who buy a chromebook, nook, or kindle hd.
    When you're comparing priced options, the reasons and justifications change depending on the cost.
    It's a lot harder to compete with the free Chromium OS that relies on store purchases and ad revenue when you charge 100$ for your software.
    It's even harder to compete when you include default settings that essentially hand your data to the U.S. gov't on a silver platter like win8 does.
     
  5. LiteOS

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    #2385 LiteOS, Aug 21, 2014
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    linux need standardization
    and new script lang
    its looks like commodore with not few cmd to run a game
    we are in [oop]object age and very powerful cpu we dont so much a optimization
    there always a limit to depth of the details that geek would want to learn and know

    ppls in Microsoft known that concept all along
     
  6. endbase

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    #2386 endbase, Aug 21, 2014
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  7. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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  8. bdsams

    bdsams MDL Novice

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    I now know why FaiKee thinks that Threshold and Windows 9 are two separate things, not saying that I agree, but I know where it is coming from.
     
  9. EFA11

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    I was under the assumption that Win9/Phone/etc where all combined as "Threshold". Not any one specific item. Assumption is the mother of all :censored:up's so, Im probably wrong haha
     
  10. NaiveUser

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    I assume, in the original roadmap of Windows 8 branch, Threshold was indeed 8.2, and in the dec 2013 wave of Threshold news, all rumors called it 8.2. I doubt they'll change the Windows 8 branding anytime soon if Windows 8 was successful, and the Windows 9 branch was for the far future.

    then, there are rumors saying that a 'reset' happened, and the marketing dept could change the branding, blahbalh.

    but whatever happened (or not) in the marketing dept, the development process obviously won't change to align with them, so there are still Threshold branch/builds and Windows 9 branch/builds, and developers would talk about them using code names, that was my theory. :)
     
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  11. MonarchX

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    #2392 MonarchX, Aug 22, 2014
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    Has Microsoft re-released the pulled Update 2 packages? I know I installed Update 2 and Hotfixes over WHDownloader as soon as Update 2 came out, so I guess I already have the "bad" updates. How can I check? I clean WinSxS with murphy's .bat file after I install several updates, so I don't know if any remaining info stayed...

    I do know that Windows Update did not dowload all the Hotfixes that became available with Update 2. I also noticed that murphy's ISO's do NOT Include a HUGE number of hotfixes, even when the release is labeled - Windows 8.1 Update 1 + July 2014. I think murphy only integrates the basic/baseline updates, but not security fixes, general fixes, and hotfixes that I find in WHDownloader.... After I freshly installed Windows 8.1 Update 1 + July 2014 Updates ISO on a formatted SSD, I had to use WHDownloader and download practically all hotfixes, even the ones from May, June, and July, which makes no sense as ALL types of updates should've been integrated into July 2014 release. I am not bashing as I am VERY grateful to murphy for his releases, but I don't understand why his release do not include so many hotfixes...
     
  12. ZacB

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    You're correct. Threshold would have ultimately been called Windows 8.2 if Windows 8 had done well marketshare wise. Since it hasn't, Threshold will be called something completely non Windows 8.x related, most likely Windows 9, but it doesn't have to be. Literally, the marketing team will call it ANYTHING but Windows 8.x, they could call it Windows Air or Windows One, anything, just not Windows 8.x.

    The engineers who I've spoken with don't reference any of their current plans as Windows 9, just Threshold. There is 'no' Windows 9 currently in the works from understanding. Right now the only development worth talking about at all really is Threshold, and then post-Threshold, and post-Threshold isn't Windows 9.
     
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  13. victorios

    victorios MDL Member

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    Windows Treshold is free for Windows 8.1 Update 1 users ?
    Windows Treshold is new Windows ?
     
  14. MrKaon

    MrKaon MDL Senior Member

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    probably will be. M$ is so desperate to get rid of Windows 8 name.
    Treshold is a code name for next Windows OS.
     
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  15. arseny92

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    It is being like that already since ages, because the x64 architecture is a an extension to x86. 32-bit code runs in V86 emulation anyways. 695608, 882926,
    on a side note, efi ia32 booting is supported on 8.1 onwards
     
  16. TheSubaru2012

    TheSubaru2012 MDL Senior Member

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    Just looking at this link here, kinect and aero coming back to windows 9?:
    Can't post links since this is my 12th post, but this does come from win8china (translated in English using google)
     
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  17. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    From what I heard, it seems MS still haven't defintely decided on how to proceed, so it's really too early to speculate it there would be a 9600 with bump-ed up delta, a 9601, or win8.2, or just win9 with everything - one thing I heard of why they hesitate to release 8.2 because it would need to acquire build 10000(multiple of 16 and 100), but some XP vol clients sre still on old softwares(tailor-made programs) that may have problem with 5-digit builds.

    Although bdsams said he knew why I said Threshold and win9 are different, he defintely made a wrong guess, but I am quite sure he has found something interesting, and I am still waiting for his blog to appear. :p
     
  18. bdsams

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