News/Discussions On Windows Upcoming Products: W8.1Update-x;W365;WThreshold;Win9

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by FaiKee, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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  2. bdsams

    bdsams MDL Novice

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    I now know why FaiKee thinks that Threshold and Windows 9 are two separate things, not saying that I agree, but I know where it is coming from.
     
  3. EFA11

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    I was under the assumption that Win9/Phone/etc where all combined as "Threshold". Not any one specific item. Assumption is the mother of all :censored:up's so, Im probably wrong haha
     
  4. NaiveUser

    NaiveUser MDL Senior Member

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    I assume, in the original roadmap of Windows 8 branch, Threshold was indeed 8.2, and in the dec 2013 wave of Threshold news, all rumors called it 8.2. I doubt they'll change the Windows 8 branding anytime soon if Windows 8 was successful, and the Windows 9 branch was for the far future.

    then, there are rumors saying that a 'reset' happened, and the marketing dept could change the branding, blahbalh.

    but whatever happened (or not) in the marketing dept, the development process obviously won't change to align with them, so there are still Threshold branch/builds and Windows 9 branch/builds, and developers would talk about them using code names, that was my theory. :)
     
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  5. MonarchX

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    #2385 MonarchX, Aug 22, 2014
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    Has Microsoft re-released the pulled Update 2 packages? I know I installed Update 2 and Hotfixes over WHDownloader as soon as Update 2 came out, so I guess I already have the "bad" updates. How can I check? I clean WinSxS with murphy's .bat file after I install several updates, so I don't know if any remaining info stayed...

    I do know that Windows Update did not dowload all the Hotfixes that became available with Update 2. I also noticed that murphy's ISO's do NOT Include a HUGE number of hotfixes, even when the release is labeled - Windows 8.1 Update 1 + July 2014. I think murphy only integrates the basic/baseline updates, but not security fixes, general fixes, and hotfixes that I find in WHDownloader.... After I freshly installed Windows 8.1 Update 1 + July 2014 Updates ISO on a formatted SSD, I had to use WHDownloader and download practically all hotfixes, even the ones from May, June, and July, which makes no sense as ALL types of updates should've been integrated into July 2014 release. I am not bashing as I am VERY grateful to murphy for his releases, but I don't understand why his release do not include so many hotfixes...
     
  6. ZacB

    ZacB MDL Junior Member

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    You're correct. Threshold would have ultimately been called Windows 8.2 if Windows 8 had done well marketshare wise. Since it hasn't, Threshold will be called something completely non Windows 8.x related, most likely Windows 9, but it doesn't have to be. Literally, the marketing team will call it ANYTHING but Windows 8.x, they could call it Windows Air or Windows One, anything, just not Windows 8.x.

    The engineers who I've spoken with don't reference any of their current plans as Windows 9, just Threshold. There is 'no' Windows 9 currently in the works from understanding. Right now the only development worth talking about at all really is Threshold, and then post-Threshold, and post-Threshold isn't Windows 9.
     
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  7. victorios

    victorios MDL Member

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    Windows Treshold is free for Windows 8.1 Update 1 users ?
    Windows Treshold is new Windows ?
     
  8. MrKaon

    MrKaon MDL Senior Member

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    probably will be. M$ is so desperate to get rid of Windows 8 name.
    Treshold is a code name for next Windows OS.
     
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  9. arseny92

    arseny92 MDL Secret Weapon

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    It is being like that already since ages, because the x64 architecture is a an extension to x86. 32-bit code runs in V86 emulation anyways. 695608, 882926,
    on a side note, efi ia32 booting is supported on 8.1 onwards
     
  10. TheSubaru2012

    TheSubaru2012 MDL Senior Member

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    Just looking at this link here, kinect and aero coming back to windows 9?:
    Can't post links since this is my 12th post, but this does come from win8china (translated in English using google)
     
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  11. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    From what I heard, it seems MS still haven't defintely decided on how to proceed, so it's really too early to speculate it there would be a 9600 with bump-ed up delta, a 9601, or win8.2, or just win9 with everything - one thing I heard of why they hesitate to release 8.2 because it would need to acquire build 10000(multiple of 16 and 100), but some XP vol clients sre still on old softwares(tailor-made programs) that may have problem with 5-digit builds.

    Although bdsams said he knew why I said Threshold and win9 are different, he defintely made a wrong guess, but I am quite sure he has found something interesting, and I am still waiting for his blog to appear. :p
     
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  13. bdsams

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    The difference here is that this is not an app like that, it is build into Windows Update. Shall see if it stays though.
     
  14. Chibi ANUBIS

    Chibi ANUBIS MDL Chibi Developer

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    Windows 9 Preview come out the 30 september ?
     
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  15. TheSubaru2012

    TheSubaru2012 MDL Senior Member

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    Definitely a great feature for testers, at least we kill more windows problems! :clap:
     
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  16. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Windows is probably the only piece of software that i'd proudly beta-test to help out MS.
    I've been using Windows since 3.0.
     
  17. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Yes, I recently discovered the ia32 uefi boot support. It seems like it only works if your processor is 32-bit.
    So, it's not something most people would ever be able to use unless they have a tablet or something.

    I didn't know that it already runs the 32-bit programs in emulated mode.
    I guess that makes sense. What doesn't make sense, to me, is why they have 32-bit and 64-bit versions of all the operating system programs.
    That just seems wasteful.

    Thx for the info arseny92, you're always helpful.
     
  18. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    It is 8 days to go. I think that is a press release date. I think we are going to expect the general public to get it around October.