Old Computer keeps freezing...

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by ThomasMann, Dec 25, 2019.

  1. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I strongly believe this should be the first thing to consider. It is definitely a hardware failure to a very high extent. A faulty motherboard perhaps should be the culprit.
     
  2. Joe C

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    #42 Joe C, Jan 9, 2020
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  3. nodnar

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    :g: i would run a drastic scan on that machine;my money is on some cryptominer doing nasty things to its ram. did you try to run videos without it being connected to the www?
    if no luck i would boot it into linux mint;without internet you can use vlc in mint too, and see if it still freezes. in any case windose seems to gobble up way too much ram merely running vlc and some innocent video.
     
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  4. ThomasMann

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    Thank you all very much for your answers, but I asked that question before in #40:

    I test the hardware, as was suggested I have run HWtest, as was suggested. And the result is right here in front of me. But I do not know enough to have an opinion about its content.
    How can I share the resulting .HTM file, which has only 125kb, but is a mile long?
    You are all more than welcome to have a look at it, and share your opinion and advice....

    Here is the small part about memory:


    Memory



    [General information]

    Total Memory Size:2 GBytes

    Total Memory Size [MB]:2048


    [Current Performance Settings]

    Current Memory Clock:333.3 MHz (5 : 4 ratio)

    Current Timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS):5-4-4-14



    Command Rate:2T

    Read to Write Delay (tRD_WR) Same Rank:6T

    Write to Read Delay (tWR_RD) Same Rank (tWTR):10T

    Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP):4T

    Write to Precharge Delay (tWTP):12T

    Write Recovery Time (tWR):5T

    RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD):3T

    Row Cycle Time (tRC):20T

    Four Activate Window (tFAW):13T


    Row: 0 - 1 GB PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM Transcend JM800QLU-1G



    [General Module Information]

    Module Number:0

    Module Size:1 GBytes

    Memory Type:DDR2-SDRAM

    Module Type:Regular Unbuffered (UDIMM)

    Error Check/Correction:None

    Memory Speed:400.0 MHz (PC2-6400)

    Module Manufacturer:Transcend

    Module Part Number:JM800QLU-1G

    Module Serial Number:4115793920

    Module Manufacturing Date:Year: 2016, Week: 2


    [Module Characteristics]

    Module Width:64-bits

    Module Voltage:SSTL 1.8V

    SPD Revision:1.2

    Number Of Ranks:1

    Row Address Bits:14

    Column Address Bits:10

    Number Of Banks:8


    [Module timing]

    Supported Burst Lengths:4, 8

    Refresh Rate:Reduced 0.5x (7.8 us)

    Supported CAS Latencies (tCAS):6.0, 5.0, 4.0

    Min. RAS-to-CAS Delay (tRCD):15.00 ns

    Min. Row Precharge Time (tRP):15.00 ns

    Min. RAS Pulse Width (tRAS):45 ns



    Supported Module Timing at 400.0 MHz:6.0-6-6-18

    Supported Module Timing at 333.3 MHz:5.0-5-5-15

    Supported Module Timing at 266.7 MHz:4.0-4-4-12



    Min. Row-Activate To Row-Activate Delay (tRRD):7.50 ns

    Write Recovery Time (tWR):15.00 ns

    Internal write to read command delay (tWTR):7.50 ns

    Internal read to precharge command delay (tRTP):7.50 ns

    Minimum Activate to Activate/Refresh Time (tRC):60.00 ns

    Minimum Refresh to Activate/Refresh Command Period (tRFC):127.50 ns

    Address and Command Setup Time Before Clock (tIS):0.17 ns

    Address and Command Setup Time After Clock (tIH):0.25 ns

    Data Input Setup Time Before Strobe (tDS):0.05 ns

    Data Input Setup Time After Strobe (tDH):0.12 ns


    Row: 1 - 1 GB PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM Transcend JM800QLU-1G



    [General Module Information]

    Module Number:1

    Module Size:1 GBytes

    Memory Type:DDR2-SDRAM

    Module Type:Regular Unbuffered (UDIMM)

    Error Check/Correction:None

    Memory Speed:400.0 MHz (PC2-6400)

    Module Manufacturer:Transcend

    Module Part Number:JM800QLU-1G

    Module Serial Number:4115793920

    Module Manufacturing Date:Year: 2016, Week: 2


    [Module Characteristics]

    Module Width:64-bits

    Module Voltage:SSTL 1.8V

    SPD Revision:1.2

    Number Of Ranks:1

    Row Address Bits:14

    Column Address Bits:10

    Number Of Banks:8


    [Module timing]

    Supported Burst Lengths:4, 8

    Refresh Rate:Reduced 0.5x (7.8 us)

    Supported CAS Latencies (tCAS):6.0, 5.0, 4.0

    Min. RAS-to-CAS Delay (tRCD):15.00 ns

    Min. Row Precharge Time (tRP):15.00 ns

    Min. RAS Pulse Width (tRAS):45 ns



    Supported Module Timing at 400.0 MHz:6.0-6-6-18

    Supported Module Timing at 333.3 MHz:5.0-5-5-15

    Supported Module Timing at 266.7 MHz:4.0-4-4-12



    Min. Row-Activate To Row-Activate Delay (tRRD):7.50 ns

    Write Recovery Time (tWR):15.00 ns

    Internal write to read command delay (tWTR):7.50 ns

    Internal read to precharge command delay (tRTP):7.50 ns

    Minimum Activate to Activate/Refresh Time (tRC):60.00 ns

    Minimum Refresh to Activate/Refresh Command Period (tRFC):127.50 ns

    Address and Command Setup Time Before Clock (tIS):0.17 ns

    Address and Command Setup Time After Clock (tIH):0.25 ns

    Data Input Setup Time Before Strobe (tDS):0.05 ns

    Data Input Setup Time After Strobe (tDH):0.12 ns
     
  5. Joe C

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    Everything points to 2x1 gb memory in your pc.
    Why do or did you think you have 4 gbs?
     
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  6. ThomasMann

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    #46 ThomasMann, Jan 10, 2020
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    I really do not remember, as it is not my computer, and it does not make any difference anyway.
    I only got this Test software three days ago, remember?

    The actual point being that, as shown in the first post, pic2, at the point of freezing the memory was not at its limits at all...

    Another point would be, that RIGHT NOW, I can cause freezing by running the one video on the computer, While the previous owner told me that it froze at all kinds of opportunities.

    THAT is why I simply ask the questions I ask, while you, as you have a habit of doing, instead of answering it, ask all kinds of other questions... So kindly spare me that. I prefer forist like Enthousiast, who ALWAYS simply helps...
     
  7. Joe C

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    It may be because you stated you have or gave the impression that you have 4gb memory
     
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  8. ThomasMann

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    I click on insert... and there on code... and then copy and paste into the small appearing window... I get

    The following error occurred:

    Please enter a message with no more than 60000 characters



    I tried the .HTM file and the .log file, same result..

    HWinfo offers these as save:
    Logfile
    CommaDelimitedFile
    XML
    HTML
    MHTML and Summary for Clipboard
     
  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  10. nodnar

    nodnar MDL Expert

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    if it is not even your own machine, i would be even more suspicious... people still manage to collect all kinds of malware..and i sincerely doubt if it can be some hardware fault.
    [ at the most the cpu could do an autoshutdown if something gets too hot.does not look like it from taskmanager pic you posted.]
    you took a lot of time and trouble answereing all the questions you got, i saw, but you did not take the path i sketched.
     
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  11. ThomasMann

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    I ran ALL the AV software in the WRT.... and I also know that it cannot be a virus. Because that computer has had this problem since two or three years, then it got a different owner and I clean installed Win7 again on it.
    And it is the Win7 that runs on this machine also. There is no such problem on this computer, but in spite the clean install the problem is still on the other machine.
    You draw your conclusions from that.....
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    This was the purpose of the tool in this scenario:
    Code:
    Total Present : 1.75 GB
    Presently Used : 619.36 MB
    Available : 1.14 GB [65.42%]
    Type {3} : Non-ECC
    Max Sockets : 2 {May vary depending on the Motherboard's original prototype design or revision}
    MotherBoard Max Capacity : 4096 MB {Depends on the Chipset's memory array, 4GB or below could mean per slot}
    Max Amount Per Slot : 2048 MB
    Memory Present Per Slot : 1:1024MB 2:1024MB
    Slot0 : DIMM0, 1 GB, 667 Mhz, P/N: JM800QLU-1G
    Slot1 : DIMM1, 1 GB, 667 Mhz, P/N: JM800QLU-1G
    Slots Information : Total: 2 / Free: 0
    
    This was the question at the time of my post, to show it's just 2 x 1GB and not 2 x 2GB.

    I missed a notification, members get by quoting their post or using @Enthousiast in my case.
     
  13. nodnar

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  14. ThomasMann

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    No problem....
    I was hoping that MS User, who suggested to make all that effort of getting and using HWinfo would answer, now that I did it,... but nothing...
     
  15. MS_User

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    i suggested for u to run a HW diagnostic tool on all your HW to see if u get a error log on the issue that your having.
     
  16. ThomasMann

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    And as I have no idea what that would look like, I would like you, who seem to know rthis software, to have a look at it. But the file is too huge.
    The part of the log report about the Memory is in comment #44, could you have a look at it?

    Thanks
     
  17. LittlePro

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    #59 LittlePro, Jan 14, 2020
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  18. Tiger-1

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    ;):eek::thinking:
     
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