Sledgehammer - Windows 10 Update Control

Discussion in 'MDL Projects and Applications' started by pf100, Nov 28, 2016.

  1. nodnar

    nodnar MDL Expert

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    deplorable post, imho, @awuctl. m$ sets great store by keeping our systems up to date, but i will tell you a lill secret, all those updates are bs!. when m$ started to aggressively promote
    the `free update` to ten, way back in 2015, i turned updates off like a shot. unfortunately , i was already too late for the `free`update of telemetry, that they had slipped in. [without asking, btw.] and breaking my system? nonsense! to this day updates are blocked on my machine, and i have encountered no problems whatsoever. and i have washed my hands of that idiotic bypass elegibility invention by m$.too if i did not know any better, i would suspect that your post was written by a m$-employee.
     
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  2. Skunk1966

    Skunk1966 MDL Member

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    hell no this is interesting stuff
     
  3. awuctl

    awuctl MDL Junior Member

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    You are no better than a conspiracy theorist.
    You have proven nothing with your post and your baseless opinions mean nothing if you do not even make an attempt to justify any of them. If you took the time to read what I wrote you would know why I'm asking those questions and that your inanity doesn't help me or anyone else.
    You're not an authority on anything if all you have is unsubstantiated opinions.

    Same goes for you I guess..
     
  4. Hal2000

    Hal2000 MDL Novice

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    Please stop feeding the TROLL.
     
  5. freevista

    freevista MDL Member

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    FYI: kb4565483 (2020-07) updated WaaSMedicAgent.exe, WaaSMedicCapsule.dll, WaaSMedicPS.dll and WaaSMedicSvc.dll.
     
  6. awuctl

    awuctl MDL Junior Member

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    Honestly, I feel like you are the trolls. I'm only asking you to give your arguments for using this tool (over its >officially supported< alternatives) and you're either pretending you don't hear that or actually have no arguments.
    I got a good and insightful explanation on the project's history from @pf100 on Discord and I plan on testing some things myself (mainly for any permanent damage and if it actually works as good as it is advertised compared to Microsoft's tool, expect an update someday :p ).
    The only thing I argued about is that I don't need your anti-Microsoft propaganda or "all updates are bad" bulls**t when you have absolutely nothing to back it up.

    If I'm to be labeled a troll for trying to be reasonable then so be it. That's your opinion that I (as mentioned before) don't really care about :p
     
  7. Hal2000

    Hal2000 MDL Novice

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    Pf100 I Just want to thank you for the amazing work you continue to do on Sledgehammer. All my family use it including my 11 and 7 year old grandchildren on their laptops, in all 8 Operating Systems. I cannot thank you enough for helping us all to control what and when we update. Hope you are keeping well during these strange times. Best wishes Hal
     
  8. wallofasgard

    wallofasgard MDL Novice

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    #1608 wallofasgard, Aug 7, 2020
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    Works fine in my system for years.Ive been updating only my Office 2016 and 2019 not Windows 10 these past months unless the changelog is necessary for my task and not for someoneelse's.I also used a different tool before but an unwanted update was performed so i decided to use this instead.Dont want these untested Windows update to brick my currently working well PCs.Also,good thing about the WUMT in your tool is that i can select updates that i want instead of default way when MS shoving down everything on the list automatically.Thank you very much.

    Edit : Not meaning to offend anyone but i personally think that this app did well for me compare to what those highly paid experts of M$ done to Windows Update (from UI to Deployment).
     
  9. jinbill

    jinbill MDL Novice

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    #1609 jinbill, Aug 8, 2020
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    hi! I noticed the script makes Windows Security unmanageable, if I click on the Windows Security shield/icon in the task bar it doesn't open the program even if I disable/uninstall the script.

    Can some kind person share a link if this problem has already been explained?
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    Is there any solution to be able to open and manage Windows Security with updates disabled?
     
  10. pf100

    pf100 MDL Expert

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    I haven't had a problem nor have I had any reports of a problem with the script interfering in any way with windows security system so with the information you gave me I can't help you. Let us know what you find.
     
  11. zinoswink

    zinoswink MDL Novice

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    Using Windows 10 x64 v2004 build 19041.388 with latest Sledgehammer script I have zero issues with Windows Security opening or functioning.
    Same Sledgehammer script worked the same for me on all previous Windows 10 versions & builds.
     
  12. grumple

    grumple MDL Novice

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    Long time lurker, created an account just to post this. Thank you very much @pf100 for making this tool - this is exactly what I needed. I recently purchased a new laptop for gaming when I travel and due to hardware support I'm forced to run Win10, this will go a long way to restoring sanity in controlling the rate and cadence at which updates and features are applied.

    Just one question, apologies I couldn't find it in the README or threads here: I chose the installation method (win10 home 1909), if I want to upgrade to a new version of Sledgehammer later what's the recommended way? Should I just install it while leaving the previous version in place?

    Thank you!
     
  13. pf100

    pf100 MDL Expert

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    I've always recommended uninstalling before installing a newer version to elimininate any possible issues, but the last few releases since v2.6.0 operate basically exactly the same with some fixes, so you can just install a newer version on top of older version starting with v2.6.0. If you do that you'll have an older version text file (current file is named "version 2.7.2") in the Sledgehammer start menu folder so just delete the older version shortcut. Even if you leave both version shortcuts it won't hurt anything. I'll do something about that in the next release.

    So tl;dr, yes it's okay to install a newer version over an older version until further notice.
     
  14. grumple

    grumple MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the confirmation, glad to know both approaches will work. I started with Sledgehammer 2.7.2 but will uninstall/install as that's recommended.
     
  15. Jerro30

    Jerro30 MDL Novice

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    Hi im new here. Just installed sledgehammer 2.7.2 disabled windows update, but still have that "update and restart" And "update and shut downn" in start button. What can i do now?
     
  16. pf100

    pf100 MDL Expert

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    #1616 pf100, Aug 19, 2020
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    You have a pending update you have to either install or clear.
    Since you don't want to install the update, what I use in that case is @GodHand's Reset-WindowsUpdate script.
    It's the second script in the first post that starts with "Function Reset-WindowsUpdate".
    Disconnect from the internet, uninstall Sledgehammer, open PowerShell ISE as administrator, copy the contents of the .ps1 into the script pane, hit F5 then type "Reset-WindowsUpdate" and wait until it's finished, then reboot.
    After reboot, run Sledgehammer to first screen, then you can reconnect to the internet and the pending update should be gone.
    Edit: Added that Powershell ISE should be run as administrator.
     
  17. Jerro30

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    pf100 MDL Expert

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    #1618 pf100, Aug 19, 2020
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    (OP)
    At some point recently, automatic driver updates began installing during an update check on a new install with Sledgehammer even though they are offered by WuMgr or WUMT and you immediately hide the updates.
    So driver updates completely bypass Sledgehammer, but only while checking for updates in a new install with missing drivers.
    I never specifically blocked driver updates, but until recently I didn't have to.
    The script is designed to control updates, but not driver updates specifically.
    The only way I know to block driver updates with the script, unless someone knows a better way, is to completely disable windows driver updates through windows update, or at least while checking for updates with the script.
    Doing that would start to cross a line I drew in the sand about not touching things not related to updates, even though a driver update is a windows update.
    I would appreciate any thoughts on this.

    Edit: added that driver updates on a new install is what bypasses the script.
    Tested clean install while disconnected from internet, then running sledgehammer, then connecting to internet and checking for updates with sledgehammer. Only happens after clean install with missing or older drivers.
     
  19. Homer712

    Homer712 MDL Member

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    I've had Sledgehammer installed for some time now and its functioning perfectly. Windows 10, 1909, MS forced updates are being stopped and Defender updates continue to be installed. Perfect solution, thank you!

    As for driver updates, if I need them (not sure how I would know) I'll go the manufacturer's web site and download them. Wondering if the driver updates that MS is pushing out have anything to do with things being broken when a CU is pushed out, thus requiring a drive update to fix what the CU broke.

    If there is a way to add blocking driver updates to Sledgehammer without you taking on a six month development project (I have no idea of what would be involved) I'd vote for adding the driver update blocking feature.
     
  20. Hal2000

    Hal2000 MDL Novice

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    Just hide them if they appear when checking for updates.