Stop Windows 10 1607 upgrading to 1709

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by lewis_MDL, Feb 16, 2018.

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Do you hate the forced update style Windows?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Not sure whether the tasks might re-create it, so i disable the tasks to be safe :g:.
     
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  2. pf100

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  3. useru

    useru MDL Novice

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    Run gpedit.msc to disable feature updates at 1607 :
    Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Windows Updates / Defer Windows Udpates
    Select when Feature Updates are received :
    Enable Current Branch for Buisiness / 0 days / Pause feature updates.

    1607 home and pro supports ends in April. Does the policy works in may still?
    As far a I know 1607 is supported till 2023 at Clover Trail CPU.
    How to install updates in may at a non Clover Trail CPU?
     
  4. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    FYI: I upgraded my Pro to EnterpriseS (aka 2016 LTSB). Imported the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion key from LTSB to my main machine and then ran the setup.exe of a mounted LTSB. It offered to Upgrade while preserving programs and settings and created a perfect EnterpriseS with the look and feel from the previous Pro. Only needed to redo Telemetry measures and related stuff. Rest works as intented.
     
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  5. hlmasterchief93

    hlmasterchief93 MDL Novice

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    Will setting WUMT to Disabled + Disable 3 tasks "UpdateAssistant*" is enough?
    I'm still thinking if I should move from 1607 to 1709.
     
  6. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    For me that upgrade always failed :g:. For that reason i'm happy the switch to the Enterprise LTSB worked.

    Check in Task Scheduler Library/Microsoft/Windows/rempl and disable all tasks to be safe.
     
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  7. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    ^^
    Hi bro, for me Build 1709 is the better version of Windows 10 until now but after make "some" changes & tweaks still remember that all versions of W10 have the same kernel so I think is only ilusion think Build 1607 is the better IMO :D:shisha:
     
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  8. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    1. Actually the kernels differ a lot, for that reason you need a full Upgrade to a new build rather than a simple Cumulative Udate.

    2. My Pro refused the upgrade to 1709 but perfectly In-Place-Upgraded to Enterprise LTSB, whats even better. Will wait for reports on 1803 and 2018 LTSC and then decide.
     
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  9. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    yep I agree dude I think the same thing when speaking about LTSC and remember that 2018 LTSC is upgrade for 2015 LTSB so I understand that you can deserve reason but only in 2019 where 2016 LTSB is upgrade to 2019 LTSC :g::rasta: so is another thing :p
     
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  10. s1ave77

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    Since 2016 LTSB is official successor of 2015, it should also get the 2018 Upgrade as offer :g:.
     
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  11. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    hehe dude you know as MSFT is try remember times of launch of 2015 LTSB Build 10240 for instance I think that 2018 LTSC IS sucessor of 2015 LTSB who know? only rest wait Build 1803 :g:
     
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  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    LTSB's don't get any upgrades offered, no WU ESD too ;):)
     
  13. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Would assume there will be a way using the mounted ISO :thinking:. Who needs WU :cool2:?
     
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  14. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    I read that you said it should get the upgrade offered, ofcourse using an iso should work :D
     
  15. hlmasterchief93

    hlmasterchief93 MDL Novice

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    For switching to Enterprise LTSB, I need to copy the whole tree under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion?
    And do I need to integrate update to the ISO?

    1607 Pro will EOL on April, 1607 Enterprise will have 6 months more. Can we apply updates from Enterprise to Pro after EOL? Then we can wait till 2018 LTSC and still up to date :D
     
  16. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Sub-keys aren't needed, only the entries of the main key (regarding the installed systems edition names etc).

    I used a default ISO and installed CU and others manually later to update to delta: 14393.2097.

    After EOL the Enterprise updates MUM will most likely limit them to that edition.

    Switching to LTSB gives me time till 2026 to decide :D.

    EDIT: Apparently i had a 14393 Pro Image backup only 2 days old in case anything went wrong.
     
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  17. chantszhim

    chantszhim MDL Member

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    You only need to change EditionID under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion to EnterpriseS before running LTSB ISO setup.exe.
     
  18. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Recommend to rename ProductName to show Enterprise LTSB likewise :cool2:.
     
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  19. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    Hi s1ave77 see my latest bench using Sandra on W10 2016 LTSB is 9,21 kPT is good or no :p
     
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  20. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    No clue never used that bench :g:. I just start a game to check performance and can't find a difference to Professional.
     
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