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Discussion in 'WHDownloader' started by Alphawaves, Apr 29, 2013.

  1. tomorrow

    tomorrow MDL Addicted

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    Actually a while back i did a test. I took the Win7 x64 XML. Cleaned it up and copy-pasted direct URL-s from it to Firefox+downthemall accelerator. While normal download trough WHD took about an hour the "hack" download took little over 30 minutes. Nearly 50% improvement in download time. Granted there were some problems. Mainly the fact that some updates failed to download consistently. Could have been an accelerator bug.
    Average download speed was 1,3MB/s (~16Mbit down/1Mbit up line. Note the Mbit not MegaByte!).
     
  2. Alphawaves

    Alphawaves Super Moderator/Developer
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    OK ive had enough time out...:hug2: :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: luv you guys..:hug2:
    Update:

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  3. shamu726

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  4. compstuff

    compstuff MDL Senior Member

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    MAN... you seriously go me with that one :eek:
     
  5. Scool

    Scool MDL Novice

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    hello, sorry if it's a stupid question, but is it the same tool as wsusoffline ? there is differences between them ?
    best regars
    Chris
     
  6. Kees030

    Kees030 MDL Novice

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    I read all posts in this topic, yet it isn't clear to me how to use this tool :( So please help :worthy:

    I have a tweaked Win7 Ultimate x64 iso with updates added till 2013, December. After a fresh install Windows Update History shows 146 updates with install date 2013, December 1 (including IE, .NET, Windows Defender and Malicious Software Removal updates). After running Windows Update another 14 updates show up.

    Questions:
    1. Can I use WHD to really integrate the updates (so they don't appear in Windows Update History) and if yes, how?
    2. How do I use WHD to find and download the updates in stead of Windows Update?
    3. What should I do to combine 1 and 2 into a new fully integrated and up to date image?
     
  7. Kees030

    Kees030 MDL Novice

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    Hi Knives*. Thanks for your response. It seems to me you've had a different problem though. Maybe my starting point is a mission impossible ....

    The ISO I have is a modified SP1; unattended install with driver packs, tweaks and 146 updates added. The updates are installed during Windows installation (I don't have to download them), however they don't seem to be integrated into the image like SP1; all show up in Windows Update History. I only have an original image without SP1. Updating it from there will take a lot of time and I don't know how to modify it, so that route isn't an option for me.

    In WHD\Tools and Options\Windows I found "Check installed updates on your current system", "Remove superseded updates from your OS" and "Integrate updates.....to: Windows 7...". I was hoping I thus could get my OS up to date and integrate it to a Bootable USB Flash Drive. This would make a quick and clean reinstall a breeze.

    I don't know how/if this can be done :eek:
     
  8. Tito

    Tito Super Mod / Adviser
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  9. burfadel

    burfadel MDL EXE>MSP/CAB

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    Windowsupdate is tailored for the general use of the people using it. The repository actually has many updates not provided by Windowsupdate, and these updates contain the files contained in the updates through Windowsupdate (sometimes not in the same combination of files). These repository files are later than those in Windowsupdate, thus they supersede them. The issue with Windowsupdate is that the updates that still show, afterrall they aren't installed, right? They are, they are effectively installed with the later repository files, which I should point out are cumulative. Of course then there's the GDR/LDR topic (moreso affecting Windows 7), but even then both the GDR and LDR updates, as long as they are newer, supersede those provided by Windowsupdate.

    If you download the updates from Windowsupdate, it's not the actual update that is downloaded, it is express cabinets. These express cabinets contain only the manifest etc. files, not the actual system files. In other words, they are quite small and are non-functional. Their sole purpose is to 'shut-up' Windowsupdate :). Windowsupdate doesn't show these correctly, they still may show a 10 MB download, where in fact it will just download an express cab file of a few tens or hundreds or so KB's.

    If you install the update separately (by any method) you are actually installing more files that are all 'non-functional'. The WHD could download the express cabinets, but, but, but... it doesn't work :(. Installing the express cabinets with all known ways of installing them actually doesn't work. I found that out the hard way when I was updating the installer, I made it, found out that it doesn't quite work like that (although I am sure it worked the first time I tested it), and then spent a very long time, time I could have easily completed the new version of the installer in several times, researching and working out a way to installed them. I just couldn't work it out! I queried Ricktendo64, Pointzero, even McRip on this, and it wasn't resolved.

    So, the best solution is to just use WHD to the latest updates, then install the updates from Windowsupdate manually (to shut it up), as they will only install the express cabinets anyway. They should download pretty quick. The only time where this isn't suitable is when there are new updates just out (such as patch Tuesday) where you should wait to see what the results of the repository are.
     
  10. Knives*

    Knives* MDL Member

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    Oh, fancy stuff. You learn something new every day.

    I'll use those ISOs for integration from now on.
     
  11. Kees030

    Kees030 MDL Novice

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    Thanks Knives*, Tito, burfadel and Alphawaves.

    It's getting to complicated for me, I'm afraid :eek: I guess I'll have to choose between starting fresh, being able to integrate the updates with WHD or keeping the modified image, having to update through Windows Update......

    Since I:
    1. don't see the Media Refresh Windows 7 SP1 ISO of x64 Ultimate Dutch listed;
    2. really like the modifications and tweaks -and don't know how to make these myself- for now I choose for the latter.

    Maybe in time I'll try to figure out how to use the method Tito linked to or burfadel described.
     
  12. s1ave77

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    #1197 s1ave77, Mar 18, 2014
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    HINT: There is a Dutch Pro version listed, simply remove the ei.cfg file from the \sources\ folder to be able to install Ultimate :cool2:.

    Normally Win 7 x64 WIM holds 4 indices: HOMEBASIC/HOMEPREMIUM/PROFESSIONAL/ULTIMATE, it's one more for the x86 as there is additionally STARTER listed.

    Code:
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 6.3.9600.17031
    
    Details for image : g:\sources\install.wim
    
    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 7 HOMEBASIC
    Description : Windows 7 HOMEBASIC
    Size : 11.623.452.494 bytes
    
    Index : 2
    Name : Windows 7 HOMEPREMIUM
    Description : Windows 7 HOMEPREMIUM
    Size : 12.136.659.100 bytes
    
    Index : 3
    Name : Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL
    Description : Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL
    Size : 12.037.929.390 bytes
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 7 ULTIMATE
    Description : Windows 7 ULTIMATE
    Size : 12.200.638.813 bytes
    
    The operation completed successfully.
     
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  13. tanjiunnya

    tanjiunnya MDL Novice

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    I wish the future version can support the Proxy & Proxy Authentication options.
     
  14. s1ave77

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    It would be that nice if members could give some kind of thanks and a compliment for the hard work Alpha invested here, before they come to propose new functions.

    Otherwise it looks always a bit like complaining/whining ... :hmm:.
     
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  15. linkhunter

    linkhunter MDL Novice

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    hey how do i download update for win 7 im using win 8.1 i can only see for 8.1 :eek: