Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 - Can one actually buy a unique key?

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  1. JeanYuhs

    JeanYuhs MDL Member

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    I know that if I spent hours doing searches for various keywords in specific combinations I'd probably find an answer I could use but honestly it's easier to just ask this outright, so if an Admin or Mod decides this thread isn't worth having around, by all means delete it.

    The question:

    I and most anyone else can go to eBay and purchase a Product Key for Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 - or at least that's what the listings claim - for roughly $10-15 USD. The real question is this:

    Are they legit keys, meaning is it a key that binds the activation to the given machine it's installed on permanently (and stored on Microsoft's servers for later re-installation without it as the consumer Windows 10 does), or is the very nature of LTSC with the way the licensing works and using a KMS in a given organization simply not something that works with just a Product Key?

    I'm considering getting one of them because if I decide to use Windows 10 (I am a Windows 7 diehard, really, and won't give it up till I have no choice) I know that LTSC (previously LTSB) is the ONLY version of Windows 10 that I'd be able to tolerate. I have used the 90 day LTSC trial and spent time getting it working on my ThinkPad W540 very well, in a configuration I was actually having no issues with whatsoever.

    But of course I'd prefer it to be a bit more permanent so I wouldn't have to a) reinstall it every 89 days (or potentially re-arm it for a trial extension) or b) need to resort to using some KMS emulation or hack of any kind.

    So basically are the keys one can purchase actually useful or is it all one big damned scam to make ducats? :)

    Thanks for any assistance...
     
  2. oilernut

    oilernut MDL Member

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    There is no legit Enterprise/LTSC keys that you can buy as an individual.
     
  3. Snuffy

    Snuffy MDL Expert

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    but valid keys are available. OEM and MAK and yes GVLK(KMS keys)
     
  4. testtest322

    testtest322 MDL Senior Member

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    Why bother?? :tooth:
     
  5. JeanYuhs

    JeanYuhs MDL Member

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    So is it safe to presume that sellers on eBay are probably people that work for companies that get GVLK and MAK Product Keys from MSDN/Microsoft and then just sell 'em off because the companies they work for more than likely would never even notice? I mean, with MAK Product Keys having from 2500 to 5000 activations per key, at least if they still work the same way they did in Vista/7 days, most companies that pay for volume licensing never ever actually use anywhere near that many.

    Just curious, I mean it's not like I'd be paying $499 for a Product Key, I may just take a chance on a $13 one however and see what happens.

    Thanks for the responses.
     
  6. oilernut

    oilernut MDL Member

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    I would just use a KMS hack. Both are technically against the terms of use by Microsoft, so why pay for something that gives you nothing. Plus the key you bought can stop working at any time.
     
  7. JeanYuhs

    JeanYuhs MDL Member

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    It's weird that such a comment as the one above has logic to it and is technically true while being problematic at the same time. :)

    Again, thanks for the responses, I'll figure something out at some point in the near future.
     
  8. AndyMutz

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    #10 AndyMutz, May 13, 2019
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    I was curious about the cheap keys too, so I just bought one of those LTSC 2019 keys for 11,5 EUR.
    lets see what I get :)

    EDIT:
    after about 3 hours I got a mail with a key and a link to download "LTSCX64.2019.ENU.JAN2019.iso" from googledrive.
    I did not download the ISO, so I cannot comment on that, but I typed the key into VAMT and its description is "Win 10 RTM EnterpriseS Volume:MAK" and the key had 50 activations left.
    I tried it on one of my LTSC 2019 installations and it worked fine.
    I assume that the remaining activation count will decrease over time, even when I do not use the key on my other installations, as I suspect that the seller sells the same key to more than one buyer..

    -andy-
     
  9. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    If you are ok with giving your money to someone for something he(or she) has no right of selling then go ahead by all means.I would rather use kms & donate that same amount of money to some charity(from non-religious point of view it still helps society & from religious point of view it still gives net positive karma I believe :cool: ).
     
  10. PsychedelicShaman

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    Looks like that seller redistributes homebrew .iso images from Gen2 instead of original MVS .iso :) I would not buy from those people, i bet the MAK keys are stolen/leaked and it's just illegal business for those ebay sellers.
     
  11. AndyMutz

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    so, after about a week all 50 activations of the key I got are gone.
    since I only used 8 activations, one can be sure that the key was sold to multiple buyers.
    business as usual on ebay..

    -andy-
     
  12. KALI MAN

    KALI MAN MDL Novice

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