Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC?

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  1. f23948

    f23948 MDL Member

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    where i can find and download older LTSB 2015?
     
  2. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    #42 kaljukass, Mar 28, 2022
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    Does en_windows_10_enterprise_2015_ltsb_x86_dvd_6848454.iso and/or en_windows_10_enterprise_2015_ltsb_x64_dvd_6848446.iso
    suits you?
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    45 minutes later. You are online and viewing this topic. No answer!
    Why do you ask if you won't even answer something.
    Extremely scurrilous attitude by you.
    Have a good time, I'm not waiting for your answer no more and will never wait for it.
     
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  3. gailium119

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    Windows 11 LTSC (22000.x) can be made via edition reconstruction
    But what's the point?
    LTSC's advantage over Enterprise is its extended service of update.
    Homebrew LTSC=No official update
    So there's no point in making 22000 LTSC
     
  4. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    Product Policies matters even with the same base packages
     
  5. gailium119

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    What policy does LTSC have advantage over Enterprise or IoTEnterprise?
     
  6. AveYo

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    No such advantages vs Enterprise or Education.
    But there are real disadvantages here and there for IoTEnterprise / Enterprise LTSC / IoT Enterprise LTSC.
    Some policies might not be enabled because devs forgot / did not know these exist ;)
    Same trouble with ProWS or ProEdu. Enterprise or Education on the other hand are always solid.
     
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  7. f23948

    f23948 MDL Member

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    im going to test in virtualbox
     
  8. abbodi1406

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    All LTSC threads should be locked except for official actually-released builds
     
  9. acer-5100

    acer-5100 MDL Guru

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    I didn't bother to compare the policies on latest releases, but whan I did (at the time of 2015/2016) there where relevant differences.

    For example Cortana which was disabled on LTSC and Edu, but enabled on Enterprise.

    So no Enterprise is not the same as LTSB/C, the differences can be not relevant for most people, but, if in doubt, I can't see any reason to stay on Enterprise, when I can turn it in LTSC in 10 seconds.

    In the very worst case you gain nothing, but you don't lose anything either.
     
  10. AveYo

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    Talking about the past, many software supporting management via group policies (even microsoft's own Intune) have been hit and miss for non-common editions: N stuff, Pro Education, Pro Workstation, Enterprise LTSB/C.
    It's been a while, stuff is more cemented now.
    As for soft "license-switch" in 10 seconds, everybody can learn to swap some certs, enter a product key, change an EditionID, and it works like the real deal - for the most part.
    But once you're at your business/workplace, availability and legality are stronger reasons to avoid it. Coincidentally it is in such environment, managing many non-ordinary consumer PCs, where you find issues with group policies.

    LTSC 2021? It has Edge FFS! And all the Store backend with just the app frontend missing. And telemetry and cloud s**t by default that you need to opt out, else you're even worse than out-of-the-box Education (he he).
    Microsoft wiped their arse with "Windows 10 LTSC release does not contain any of the components of Windows 10 that may change over the life of the release. These components include Microsoft Edge (as a modern browser, it is constantly evolving to support the current modern browser web standards) as well as components/applications regularly updated via the Microsoft Store, such as Camera, Cortana, OneNote, and other modern apps that continue to advance with innovative improvements".
    LTSB = good. LTSC 2019 = crap. LTSC 2021 = mixed bag, not worth any extra hassle before June 2024 when 21H2 Enterprise and Education support ends. Like, ok, it's slimmer. But it performs the same or even worse.
    I dislike new devices, software or features getting unsupported or not working properly or at all when you find the need for it. LTSB users know those pains. Even LTSC 2019 got left behind shortly after release.
    It's no secret I'm not much of a LTSC fan, and value Education above all ;)

    11 LTSC? a dumb thread, with 11 "just" released (not even an year old) and still unfinished in it's upcoming svc_refresh.
     
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  11. acer-5100

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    #51 acer-5100, Mar 29, 2022
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    Obviously Win11 and LTS are an oxymoron, but some people don't install the latest crap just because likes the novelty at any cost, like a 12 year child.

    Some, me (and likely you) included, need to use it just to understand the new things, to support other people.

    Some others are (or will be soon) forced because the lack of driver, or because the OEM decided that a vital SW/Utility runs only on W11

    Some others just don't care of the crappy UI (easy to fix) but needs the improvements under the hood that are always present, even when MS is silent about them. Think about how much WSL or Hyper-V did improve since their first release

    For those people using W11 server (as is or turned to LTSC) can be a worth way to get the best fro W11 era, avoiding as much as possible the new crap.
     
  12. AveYo

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    I agree. It's just that it does not exist and won't exist for a long time. A fake 11 LTSC is pointless (just like fake 10 LTSC were, microsoft surprised everybody with the 2021 LTSC ♥ Edge)
     
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  13. acer-5100

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    #53 acer-5100, Mar 29, 2022
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    Free to keep your idiosyncrasy to LTSC, I explained above why what you call a fake LTSC has more than one point. Not going to repeat myself

    For me a clean iso (like 11 Server) + LTSC client policies IS practically the real thing, even the long support is there.

    Why I should use a bloated Enterprise or Education instead?
     
  14. adric

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    How would I go about integrating LTSC client policies to the server?
    Is it just a matter of replacing files for server in C:\Windows\PolicyDefinitions\ with those from an LTSC system?
     
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    #56 pm67310, May 13, 2022
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