2012 End of the world or not??

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  1. Alphawaves

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    #241 Alphawaves, Feb 16, 2012
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    Now where did i hear this before...
    Project blue book... :eek:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-lS...cxR2XKLJhiXcDfB-K1_g&lf=plpp_video&playnext=1

    :eek:
     
  2. Yen

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    Outch, that may start real confusion. No I have addressed TS and TS actually refers to the Maya civilisation and their knowledge.
    I actually never have referred here to the Maya sanskrit meaning, which is used as common sense for illusion.
    Btw: You are wrong the Maya (civilisation) was not real (not more real than the world perceived), it is maya as well....and here we have it..... confusion.

    "The mind is maya. Reality lies beyond the mind. So long as the mind functions there is duality, maya, etc. Once it is transcended the Reality shines forth." S.R. Maharshi

    Lets ditch here the maya (sanskrit) lol.:)



    IMO the purpose of any prophecy is to remind us not to forget to think about who we are and that anything that is perceived will vanish.
     
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    #244 redroad, Feb 16, 2012
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    Ad hominem

    For those who don’t know this forum is the first time I have ever attempted to engage socially with others on the internet that being said it certainly is learn as you go.

    I have found on this forum a diverse community with many helpful and caring people and to those I am very grateful..

    What is troubling for me is amongst the public discourse here is the attacks on character of others. These acts will bring down a entire community. Apathy is what makes this possible.

    My people believed that if one lied or brought “false witness against their neighbor” it was the gravest of offenses because it was an attack on the community as a whole and so to deal with the offense the person was banned from the tribe.

    I am not fearful of calling out another for such acts because I know not to do so only ensures the demise of the community any way. So to those who hide behind multiple forum I.D.’s I see you and won’t sit back and watch your destructive expressions poison this forum. Enough.

    What I believe:

    The year 2012 for me marks a time where all relations of the earth can, if they are experiencing a shift to a higher awareness, celebrate that new awareness with the world in which they live. That celebration takes many forms. Let people come forward however they choose to express their joy. Many of the inhabitants of this earth have been waiting for so very long for this moment in time.

    You would think that as a species we would evolve to a point where to berate or assault the character of another is something we would have left behind us long ago. This act poisons the very waters from which we all drink. The good news is that some are finding a different source to drink from.
     
  5. Yen

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    To talk here about such things as the 2012 phenomenon is 'new' (2012 hasn't been before. lol) and not easy. There are language barriers besides of the fact we are talking of basically something of which essence is beyond words.

    I am glad that I can talk about at all. Here and in my private life.
    Although here we can not have a look into the others eyes. The way to communicate through gestures and facial expressions cannot happen here. So there is more room for discrepancies. Also it's a kind of static to post an reply. To reply actually means to act on a post that has been made a time period before.

    The huge advantage is that many members can join at one place, members from different cultures with different opinions.

    It is a big learning effect to me, also to have an administrative job. I was thrown into this role, never planned to do it. It's a challenge.

    I had a conversation with ancestor(v) talking about MDL. I don't know if there are other technical related forums, that have created room for matters such as art, science, mystics, belief, ideologies.

    We know that people which are interested in technical matters such as PCs also have diverse other interests. (Btw: I have enjoyed our chat together with nodnar about photos).
    The idea is to support those interests as well. The virtual forum community gets so a more human touch. It reflects simply more matters which play a role in real life also.
    The forum consists then not only of IDs which are requesting something and go later, or without to leave here something 'personal', it also consists of members which reveal personal opinions.....

    Another 'issue' is IMHO that the matter technical issues and the 2012 phenomenon claim to be handled in a different way.
    Technical issues can be resolved by posting concrete instructions, yes orders, whereas to talk about the 2012 phenomenon requires a other way to argue. Misunderstandings can happen because of that.

    I think that nobody has the intent to poison a community when enjoying his own construct of ideas.
    I myself try to share what is important to me without to have the claim that it's an universal truth (the right way for everybody). If it should have caused the impression that it is anyway, then I want to apologize. I have encountered my limitation.
    The general statement of all my posts regarding this is: Hey, there is something that can relief suffer. Then I start to talk about......with the intention one day one person can have benefit of it as I have.
    Soon I'll travel again. And to interact with different cultures will (again) enrich my life.

    To your post:
    I want to get your post more detailed, to learn. You are addressing the community, but also particular members, those who hide behind their multiple forum IDs.
    Also I am interested in your thoughts about 2012 and what it means personally to you. I have got it in that way that the phenomenon is a chance for all of us to have an event which can cause a shift to a higher awareness.
    There was a culture which cared about their Self. With this event they can share this meaning while we can reflect their entire culture.
    Is it an appeal to care about the real matters in life, while we are busy with distracting consume orientated behavior to compensate 'loss'? To reveal the misbelief to have found in it a way (by consuming) to compensate loss by prophesying real loss (of the world)?

    To me it means it that way. To pay attention to our 'brevity'. Actually in a more general way. As an invitation to 'live' those things that are conform to 'us'. This doesn't mean one have to be familiar with the Maya culture, but to turn the sight to the Self (inwards).

    What about to spread fear? As reminder of living far away of our 'Self'? Or on the other hand to laugh about and say those who believe in such things are plain pessimistic? Aren't those the major effects the phenomenon causes?

    Sorry for the long reply......:)
     
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    @Yen My last post was addressed to the community as a whole not to any one person. Those who attack Another's character or are using multiple I.D.'s on this forum know who they are and I would also contend that they don't in the end feel any joy in doing it. The point is it divides a common voice that IMHO should speak for the good of all. I know in my heart you being thrown into the admin position is no mistake. You take the responsibility seriously and MDL as a whole IMHO is blessed to have you as well as the other admins. What I am speaking to most directly is allowing anyone to berate,gossip,assault, or demean the integrity or character of another or their beliefs. Allowing a pervasive mood of that nature only poisons the well. There is such a variety of people here and at so many ages. What I would want to see in any community is a seat at the table for even the meekest of voices to be able to find their voice without the fear of someone berating there point of view or even worse their character.

    The current state of the internet has allowed for a cultural exchange way beyond my imagination of 10 years ago. It has the potential to manifest a healing of division unlike anything that has come before. This is only possible if we call out hate where ever it appears.

    I am grateful for you and ancesstor's as well as the other admins willingness to take this on because it truly is what will help shape the future of this planet.

    We are all related.

    to be continued
     
  7. nodnar

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    your reply is all the more appreciated for its
    lenght, my friend,
    a person cannot formulate his outlook on life
    in two sencences, unless he is very shallow..
    the good thing here in the forum, imho, is that
    we don`t act as mere pc-consumers.
    as you say, there is to us than that.
    and to be able to share some of that, makes
    the real persons come alive.:worthy:
     
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    #248 ambidav, Feb 17, 2012
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    Alien Species 1 - Humans



    Alien Species 2 - Greys and Reptilians

     
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    #249 redroad, Feb 17, 2012
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    I offer this only as a perspective. A consideration.

     
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    #250 ambidav, Feb 17, 2012
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    It's so blatantly obvious we have been visited in the past! by some other worldly beings!!! And people ask where is the evidence!! Just take a look around you!! :hug2:
     
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    #253 redroad, Feb 17, 2012
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    @Yen

    To your question what are my views on 2012. I believe 2012 brings earth and all living things 2.0.You as a scientist might describe it as a phase transition on a spiritual level. Let say when water changes from it’s frozen state to it’s liquid state brought on by temperature change. There are more complex descriptions that I may agree with but I think keeping it simple is best here.

    Council Fire (A meeting where all living things have a place and are represented)
    My people when a council fire is called believe that it is important that all be present. The vibrational qualities of something are how it is recognized and how communication is perceived.This idea for some may be hard to understand fully so I keep it on general terms. Certain songs (tones) brought vibrational qualities that affected the whole as to bring harmony and to communicate a greater sense of well being. This ensures “We are all on the same page”

    Here are a few examples:





    Now I ask you what do the tonal qualities of this music bring to your awareness.



    This video I feel goes a long way to describe the threshold of the awakening (credit to alphawaves for introducing it to me)







    I feel that people are experiencing these changes all on their own no special teaching required. Just a knowing that it is happening and the confirmation becomes evident in their daily lives. What that looks like at the phase transition is open to many interpretations and is IMHO not important. For me it is let’s sing the song which all living things know and have only been waiting to sing.

    I do not profess to be anything other than a human being sharing my love of all life.

    Thanks for your interest. :worthy:
     
  14. Yen

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    Thanks for your contributions, thanks. :hug2:
    This thread has become such colorful with all those videos.:)
    At weekend I'll take my time and watch those. Also in the aspect of preparing myself for my journey that will start soon. Coming week as always before I start I select my music which I take with me. To accompany the journey with music especially at some places always is a special event...I'll never forget.

    To be continued....
     
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    I wish you the best on your adventure and look forward to hearing about the new discoveries.:hug2:
     
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    #256 redroad, Feb 17, 2012
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    Another perspective / A consideration

    Here is a video that demonstrates a little better the construct of vibrational shift (phase transition) and what it visually can look like. Now imagine a song a chant a drum beat and the doorways that have been opened by peoples with the soul intention of effecting harmony "for the good of all" that is the practice that has been in place for thousands of years to those peoples open to it.





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    #257 R29k, Feb 18, 2012
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    Classical music carries some of those benefits they talk about, Mozart and Beethoven. :D
     
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    #258 R29k, Feb 18, 2012
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    Very odd thing about sound.
    In the coast to coast AM video I posted they are discussing the type of stones used by the civilization that left all those stone structures through out Africa.
    They mention that the stones have bell like properties which may be linked to the power of sound.
    If you have ever watched Castle in the Sky , Uncle Pomme also mentions the same thing. :eek:I wonder where they got the concept from ?



     
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    #259 redroad, Feb 20, 2012
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    Interesting reading http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=origin%20of%20harmonic%20patterns&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpolar.alaskapacific.edu%2Fmfaller%2FThermHrm.PDF&ei=gE1CT53HB-uE0QHC17nSBw&usg=AFQjCNGglvV6qY1BujS1jLJQ3wrkAo-QHQ&cad=rja
     
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    #260 Yen, Feb 20, 2012
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    Drawings from chemical reactions.:)

    I am in my lab ATM and I am looking through my pictures I had shot.:D


    When I teach trainees one time a year we sometimes do experiments regarding 'higher organisation'. Most fascinating is if suddenly from a real mixture of different solutions (which are absolutely homogenous) it builds a inhomogeneity which has a concrete abstract shape. (Such as Cymatic).

    Unfortunately we haven't had a video cam, but a photo cam. The initial state had been a red solution, pictures were shot about 5 minutes later after adding the last solution.....
    The kind of reaction is a chemical oscillator, this one is called Belousov-Zhabotinsky-Reaction



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    The red-orange solution is a Ferroin2+ complex the blue a Ferriin3+ complex. Without going into chemical / physical details, we know a solution tries to equate its concentration, for instance when you add a drop of blue ink into water, the color will spread untill the color of the solution is homogenous.

    But here from a originally orange-red Ferroin2+ complex it builds very locally the blue Ferriin3+ complex. These blue zones are moving very slowly through the entire solution.
    Too bad I didn't a vid of it......next time I can...
    There is no influence from 'outside' it simply builds organic shapes direcly from the chemical oscillator

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    So the basic is the same. We have something (chemical or physical energy like sound) which is originally 'shapeless'.. and it builds organic structures. So it comes direcly from the chemical oscillation...but why are the shapes as they are????


    And here music from stone xylophone.....from my favorite Sigur Ros.





    The other matter is the action of music to the consciousness / body and soul..a short reply only....music has the ability to bring the mind to the Self... one of the mechanism can be focusing by repeating...anoher one like chanting matras is also concerning resonance frequencies. I am more familiar with the South Eastern culture......the Gayatri matra is a famous one:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d63COahIpVM

    Well I don't know how to explain, but I guess one needs to be open for such things already that it can take effects further in time......I simply say one has found it when feeling: This is straight from god!. Or: I am!


    I have to go to work again......:)
     
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