A new kind of EU? A new hope for the world?

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  1. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    I'll say it again, history was written by the winners mostly so the change is supposed to look good. Just look at the opposition to Columbus Day, discovery or robbery you can take your pick ! Can't wait for the day that aliens land on Earth and plant their flags on the White House roof and declare that they discovered Earth, while completely ignoring that humans are here!
     
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  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    We are but vermin, anyway... :rolleyes::p:D
     
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  3. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Prepare to wait for a long long and very long period of time, eons. LOL

    Interstellar travel might not be a possibility or reality ever.
     
  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Thank you, God... :rolleyes:
     
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  5. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Perhaps if you put it in its proper context you might begin understanding it...

    Change is where we are "outdoing" animals - we can learn and "change", including changing to the way we see and characterise ourselves, i.e. "the change" to our very "nature", never mind the societal relations which stem from it. Whomever thinks the way we saw ourselves in Slavery is the same as today is... well... not very well informed...

    Anyone who thinks Humans ought to be somehow petrified or cemented is - demented...:rolleyes:
     
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  6. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    You are speaking to me aren't you, it's real!
     
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  7. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    :D Are you getting scared pinky ole pal, that humans might not be top of the food chain as you thought ?!
    No one needs to be petrified or cemented, but a good meal is a good meal ! I don't see many people sticking up for those poor chickens at the KFC et al. will be the same when the top of the food chain arrives. Nothing personal, just a good meal after a day out on a relaxing tour of the Galaxy!
     
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  8. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    :cheers::chef:
     
  9. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    R2D2, I want a bitta... whatever you're on... :D
     
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  10. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    Chocolate overdose :D
     
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  11. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    Humans are so toxic, it's probably the only reason that we're on the top of the terran food chain. :D

    But if something gets desperate enough, the sole of a shoe starts to look good. :tasty:
     
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  12. Tiger-1

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    haha MJ you made my day :D:rofl:
     
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  13. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Not the sole, dear, the top is sometimes cow hide... ;) :D
     
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  14. TKnuckles

    TKnuckles MDL Junior Member

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    Serbia will never ever enter EU.
     
  15. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    Wasn't there a united Europe from 1939-1945?
     
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  16. TKnuckles

    TKnuckles MDL Junior Member

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    EU will go POD MAC!
     
  17. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Unlike you, I don't have a crystal ball...
     
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  18. European

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    The simple fact is we Euros have no future without European Union. Individual EU countries are too small to matter. China, Russia and even India can make a mince meat of every EU country except for France (a nuclear power and Security Council P5 member). I mean just think about countries like Italy, Norway, Slovenia, Luxembourg getting into tensed stand off with China or Russia....phew...shivers. There is no chance or future for such countries in this world.

    A UNITED EUROPE though, is a superpower. By far the world's greatest economy, and the world's most sophisticated, cultural region. The only weak link is military. But since France is a member, all EU countries remain under nuclear umbrella and it gives us time to enhance our military. This is already happening.

    Brexit was excellent. The only job of Britain was sabotaging EU from inside and doing the bid of her American masters. Britain repeatedly threw the wrench in the concept of ever closer union and sabotaged Germany's attempt to become a military power. Now they can sod off. We are also having a laugh watching UK's attempt to get a favorable trade deal while they leave. The contempt with which UK treated EU was unbelievable. Now we will see how it goes for UK while EU slowly tighten the screws.

    Americans elected the legendary buffoon called Trump. I mean, come on. If you have to elect an ultra right wing leader, AT LEAST elect someone with the demeanor of a leader. Someone with charisma. Anyway, this is why so many Euros think Americans are rednecks. But again, this has been excellent. Hillary Clinton or Obama would have never, ever allowed EU to grow it's military strength by leaps and bounds, going full steam ahead with the concept of ever closer union, and slowly decoupling from USA in terms of foreign policy matters. In short, Hillary and Obama would have never allowed EU to become a rival of USA. Now thanks of Trump, our road is clear. USA is too busy with internal politics and trying to control her mad President. While Trump continues the circus, EU is steadily moving ahead with the grand vision.

    EU does have a ton of bleeding heart, naive liberals. But thanks to neo-liberals like us those bleeding hearts can be controlled from doing too much damage. They can be controlled and even be made to do our bidding as long as you can pull the right strings.

    One important advice for British and Americans - The situation in EU is nowhere as bad as it seems from USA and UK. The propaganda which many Americans and British believe is unbelievable.

    Now Germany/EU needs to concentrate on becoming a military superpower while USA and UK are busy with their own circus. We won't get this chance anytime soon again.
     
  19. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    Just remember: Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. ;)
     
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  20. Yen

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    Are you serious?!?

    The EU just should turn towards Asia and make reasonable deals there (environmental and economical) and leave the US and UK alone...

    Our current 'problems' don't need any military to become resolved!

    If you want to raise your little ego go work on your own self-awareness!
     
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