Yeh, I saw that. They will probably sell like hotcakes. One thing is certain: AMD does great welded TIM. De-lidded 2700Xs yield virtually zero performance boost...it's shows how good the TIM is.
Sell 1 3200G to 1 customer or a hundred(or more) 1,2 or 3k cpu's to a single customer? That money will trickle down to gpu r n d at some point.
Moan time MS finally admit there is a problem with the scheduler on Ryzen after years of saying there wasnt and it was working fine. It looks like 1809 isnt getting it, only 1903. Damn AMD and their funky core layouts, Ryzen is a child of Bulldozer and it has the same issues, developers take a long time to catch up(if at all) with these funky new layouts. My i3 8300 is a single 4 core layout cpu which windows has been working on for years. If intel would raise officially supported ram speeds on low end stuff, 2400 -> 3200/3600, keep the same base clock speed, 3.7 for my 8300, they really could compete with amd in this sector. At the moment its AMD 3rd-Gen Ryzen...MEH!
Yes, I heard about the scheduler issue. As a Win7 user i don't think I would benefit even if a fix was developed (unless it comes from AMD). I just want a simple, stable, capable system. I've already gone all-in with Ryzen. Over the last few days I've purchased just about every part for my build (tired of waiting). Once the CPUs drop I'll watch some benchmarks then choose which one I want to get....though 90% sure it will be the 3700X.
Yeah, im tired of waiting for amd, shame because ive been an amd user for years. Intel users are changing to amd, im changing to intel Couldnt buy Bristol Ridge boxed retail, cant buy the single ccx 2300x and 2500x boxed retail, oem as part of a bundle only.
I can only imagine how difficult is it for a 3rd party (like MSFT) to create that kind of mission critical multi-threading code. I have first-hand experience as I do embedded controller design (PIC24F) In my project, my CPU is only running at 24Mhz. This means that I can use test equipment to look at the signals and possibly spot what I'm doing wrong. Now run the CPU at 4 Ghz In a real-time scenario, problems such as latency issues are all but impossible to spot. Not to mention the cost of the specialized test equipment capable of seeing the bus cycles. Now, write test code that will allow you to make the problem surface, so that you can analyze it. Welcome to my world. The world of the test engineer. @digiquandry: IMHO, you're correct. Wait for AMD to fix it, because they're the most qualified to understand and possible fix the problem.
Ive gone from a Steamroller 880K/gt710 running 8.1 to a i3 8300(igpu) running LTSC(see link in my signature), Crucial MX500 ssd, both os's tweaked to a similar specification, same wallpaper and theme settings, i can hardly tell the difference just running windows without any programs. No benchmarking, no frame rate comparisons(not a gamer), both are very stable in use, happy with my i3 I am starting to ignore the higher prices for intel.
Somebody's gonna bring somebody down, it's always been that way. Intel and Apple should be the first on top. So ban those Chinese products, yeah that's the best way a president could think of. Good Luck!
What brings this up? Intel and Apple and AMD all make their chips and other parts overseas from the U.S. I honestly think there is nobody actually fabricating electronic/pc parts in the U.S. If not from China then we most likely get them from Korea, Taiwan,India or Vietnam or somebody else
I think he is trying to say protectionist policies are foolish. The consumer is always the loser in this situation. We pay the tariffs, and suffer the consequences.
eh.... I think we can get knock-off products from Vietnam just as easily as we do from China. Samsung and several other big producers are located in Korea. The Media hype wants you to think otherwise.