Bios Recovery Procedures

Discussion in 'BIOS Mods' started by petar, May 9, 2008.

  1. Lockheed

    Lockheed MDL Novice

    Jun 25, 2008
    12
    0
    0
    Do you mean the screen thing? No, didn't mean this.
    I meant while in the process of flashing the bios with Crisis Disk, should I see anything on the screen or is it normal it remains off?
     
  2. petar

    petar MDL Expert

    Apr 5, 2008
    1,188
    91
    60
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. Waylander

    Waylander MDL Novice

    Jul 16, 2008
    11
    1
    0
    Doh

    I'm afraid i've been a stupid boy and went ahead to try @bios

    Now my award bios is probably messed up since nor the new bios, nor the backup i made worked for me.

    So i'm trying to make an USB boot thing since i don't have a floppy but the problem is i don't understand how to use the HP and MiniDOS tools...

    I've tried to make a floppy like this: i just opened the HP tools, selected FAT, selected: Create a boot disk using: and then the path of the MiniDOS tools and then i added the 4 files (bios.bin, awd873, autoexec and flashspi) to my usb boot stick

    Is that how it's done?

    Thanks for your help, i'm hoping somehow i won't need to use it but i'm worried about what will happen when i reboot next...
     
  4. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    What exactly have you tried already? And why do you think it's messed up?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. Waylander

    Waylander MDL Novice

    Jul 16, 2008
    11
    1
    0
    Well, so far i've tried to flash my GA-P35-DS3 to F13 using @bios.
    I get the errors everyone seems to get (alloc kernel, translate and free kernel memory failure) and after that: update failed

    So i tried to reflash it to the backup i had made using @bios but that gave me the same errors.
    So now i'm afraid that on my next reboot i'll have a corrupt bios ?
     
  6. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Oh yes, now I understand.
    @bios is a windows update program which failed to update.

    Was there a "program....." or a "erase now message" or something like that?
    Were there any messages before the error message you've got?
    IMO the bios was left untouched and you may reboot. But that's just my opinion......
    Are you running 64 bit Vista?

    Are you able to backup your current bios right now? If yes you may upload it together with the same version downloaded from Gigabyte website. I'll compare it and check if it's still untouched.

    Another way is to backup your current running bios using Hwdirect. But this method will only work if you have a 32 bit OS installed. At a 64 bit os you have to reboot as well....

    I'll stay online..........
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Thanks fisherman for your suggestion. A alternative windows based flash tool is of course the best way....there is also Award winflash, but I don't know if it's reliable.

    I don't own a Gigabyte board so I'm not familiar with possible alternatives.
    @bios is like a nightmare...........but it's still not quite clear if it's really corrupted. The backup you've made before you've tried to flash it is different to the original as well......that indicates that the bios backup went wrong.........the Hwdirect dump will show it....
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Unfortunately I have to go offline now, have to sleep...

    I wish you good luck. I'll check again here tomorrow....
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  10. Waylander

    Waylander MDL Novice

    Jul 16, 2008
    11
    1
    0
    Yen: the link you gave me seems to be a keygen only :)

    I'll try to find a download of HWdirect tomorrow, as well as try the method discribed in Fisherman's post. I think it's safe to assume at this point that my BIOS is corrupted and that i should try to do whatever possible to fix it, while making sure i don't need to reboot. I'm extremely tired now so i'm going to bed, thanks for all the help, i'll check out the FACE wizard and keep you guys updated!

    I just hope i'm able to pull this off since i'm not really a big computerwizard (which is why and how i got myself into this @bios trouble :p)
     
  11. Waylander

    Waylander MDL Novice

    Jul 16, 2008
    11
    1
    0
    I've been looking at the Face Wizard and i've tried to change my pic using one from the Gigabyte Gallery and then selecting Onboard Bios.

    After doing this it starts with: Erasing Bios... 100% and then: The same 4 errors as before and in the end i get: Flash BIOS failed.

    The Face Wizard seems to be a very simple program and i don't understand what's going so horribly wrong here :s


    *On a different note: I still have that USB stick i tried to prep as i said in my first post, can i Flash the bios from there when i reboot or is my system so damaged at this moment that it probably will just not react after reboot? :s
     
  12. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    I'm @work now, have no tools here, a short reply only....

    Fisherman said that Face Wizard allows to get the bios from (hard)disk (new original one). Have you tried this option?

    You'll find Hwdirect at bios tools thread.......the dump will show clearly if it's corrupted or not. Just save the notepad file and upload it. But you have to wait till I'm @ home again for comparison.

    At EVERY reboot the BIOS routines are used to initialise the hardware. (One beep after that indicates that everything is fine).

    If the bios is corrupted seriously it'll end up with a bricked board (black screen, NO boot).....after that there are recovery options, but success isn't assured.

    CU in about 8 hours again........;)

    Edit: It just came in my mind: Are you running some background programs such as virus scannner which could cause that issue?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  13. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    I've checked it again. There are some bytes changed, but they are not important. The bios is still intact.
    It is not the bios p35ds3.f13 from 07/10/08, you've tried to update, it is still the bios from 05/14/07.

    For safety I'll download the bios from 05/14/07 and compare it again. This will take some time. But it looks very positive. About 100%. If I could do all things 100% I would never produce a biosmod that wouldn't work.

    But I'll do all checks I know about bioses to give you my best advice.

    Stay tuned please, before you really boot....
    I'll sure reply......;)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  15. Yen

    Yen Admin
    Staff Member

    May 6, 2007
    13,081
    13,980
    340
    Your last dump matches to P35DS3.F2, GA-P35-DS3 (rev. 1.0) from 05/14/07.

    The module sizes are exactly the same, the offsets of the sensible modules as well. This are all checks I can do for you. When I would be in yours stead, I would reboot now.

    I wish you good luck.

    Please reply.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. fisherman

    fisherman MDL Novice

    May 5, 2008
    32
    0
    0
    Some additional thoughts...

    I have read this thread and I'm not sure that I understand exactly what and how you flashed at the beginning of this thread. You mention "@bios", but I can't find anything on that.

    A couple of thoughts come to mind that you might want to consider.

    1. When you say that your CPU goes to 100 % whenever you open something.
    I would bet lunch that this is some sort of malware that is messing with the internal WMI, RPC or DTM services. These are messy and very difficult to debug. I wouldnt bother. I have tried the freeware version of NOD with mixed success. I have had good results with Spyhunter, but I don't remember if it needs a reboot during its installation.

    Is it possible to add a hard drive on the fly and get a copy of XP installed on it? I realize that a windows install does mandatory reboots.

    2. I have played around with modding Gigabyte bioses and discovered that some versions of the modbios6 program add an extra byte to the end of the bios'es when they are saved.
    (Yen might want to comment on this)
    Compare the number of bytes very carefully
    of the pristine downloaded bios against the one you loaded that started giving you problems. If you get lucky and find an extra byte on one of them, it can easily be removed with winhex or PSPAD (Freeware editor on the web).

    3. When I was researching what motherboard to get, I remember that reading that people were getting into trouble with some models of Gigabyte motherboards when they used these "Update under Windows" type programs.
    It seemed to be related to the bios version that was on the motherboard prior to the flash under windows procedure.

    4. One time my the network port on my motherboard dissappered from the bios. I called Gigabyte support, and they had me remove the battery and short the battery contacts with a small screwdriver for 30 seconds. This reset the bios chip to its original state. When I reinstalled the battery and restarted, the network adapter was back in the bios.
    Overall, I have had good results with Gigabyte telephone Support - You might want to try them. Perhaps you could call them and ask them to walk you through flashing the system by using the Face Wizard program

    Lastly,
    I hope you get this all worked out properly.

    Regards,
    jj