https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-coronavirus-variants-deadly.html So, let's think for a bit, shall we: if it is more transmissible and we see it by a dramatic rise in cases, then why not infer that a dramatic rise in excess deaths is also intimately connected to this strain? At the moment we have no conclusive evidence either way but it is reasonable to assume that it would be wise to ground your arse and not travel, work from home, wear mask etc. etc. Reasons why Covid-19 variant could kill more people are uncertain It’s not yet clear why new Covid-19 variants may have a higher lethality, but “there is no new way to deal with it,” and we need to adhere to existing measures in order to control its spread, says Professor Deenan Pillay (UCL Infection & Immunity). (25 January 2021) Because, for instance Lancet warns: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00005-9/fulltext As I reported here, the numbers were considerably worse than Lancet mentions, given the date of publication - more than 1700 excess deaths in a single day etc. etc. So, it is reasonable to assume that the new variant could very well be both more infectious and more deadly... Btw: Novel antiviral drug significantly more potent against SARS-CoV-2 The antiviral drug plitidepsin could be between 10 and 100 times more effective against SARS-CoV-2, including the new UK variant, than remdesivir, finds new preclinical research involving Professor Greg Towers and Dr Clare Jolly (both UCL Infection & Immunity). (27 January 2021) Read: i News, More: UCL News P.S. Here is a pearl: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2021/feb...se-provide-critical-advice-and-expert-comment P.P.S. Covid-19 impact extends beyond fatalities A study which looks at the long-term impacts of Covid-19 is important because “Covid is about so much more than death,” and many people suffer from long-term effects of the virus, says Professor Christina Pagel (UCL Mathematics). (18 January 2021) Read: Mail Online, More: Telegraph (£), Mirror, Metro, Wales Online P.P.P.S. The impact of Covid-19 on intensive care wards Professor Hugh Montgomery (UCL Medicine) gives an overview of intensive care wards, warning that the levels of sickness are far in excess of what is normal for this time of year, with a huge psychological strain on hospital workers. (18 January 2021) Listen: BBC World Service Radio’s ‘Weekend’ (from 13 mins) P.P.P.P.S. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ew-strain-of-coronavirus-what-you-should-know Could a new COVID-19 variant affect children more frequently than earlier strains? Ray says that although experts in areas where the new strain is appearing have found an increased number of cases in children, he notes that the data show that kids are being infected by old variants, as well as the new ones. “There is no convincing evidence that any of the variants has special propensity to infect or cause disease in children. We need to be vigilant in monitoring such shifts, but we can only speculate at this point,” he says. ....and more.... https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-uk-variant-pandemic-spread
How it is possible anyone could believe such "scientific" crap. I can't believe this craziness, no similar event or pandemic has emerged before in human history. This all scientific crap is there to justify all measures. This is all planned. Damn.
Yeah, right, sure.... Errmmm... how can anyone believe this "scientific crap"? Oh, dear... Don't know... look through the window, read some elementary news, see a news channel? This sort of thing jumps out: 'People are dying at hospital doors': the Brazilian volunteer delivering oxygen to Manaus – video When Thalita Rocha's mother-in-law died due to a lack of available oxygen on a Manaus hospital's Covid ward, she vowed to raise money to deliver oxygen tanks and other lifesaving equipment to the Amazonian city's homes. Jair Bolsonaro's coronavirus policies have led to more than 226,000 deaths in Brazil, and as anger rises on the streets and protesters call for his impeachment, Rocha and other volunteers drive around Manaus offering medical kit and hope Unbelievable? I feel your pain, brother...
Alright let's pretend this is real (in my own experience deaths by covid are not happening like media is propagating, I asked in my sector and the contiguous but no one has even caught the virus) why is this happening, why so many suffering, living in this epoch of great scientific medical advances, what's going on, why isn't ivermectin flooding drugstores, hospitals?
Today I found out that in some countries, such as Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Denmark, Poland, Romania - the Ministry of Health of these countries does not have the Corona19 strain to test for Corona19! Asking a question? Guys, and to whom do you write statistics every day that so many people have been infected throughout the country? If you do not have the Covid19 strain
Of course there can be randomly a virus which is more contagious and more lethal. Maybe such a mutation within one individual was even responsible that the one has died or a severe progress. But from the perspective of becoming a dominant variant. It cannot. I don't know what's here hard to understand. Let's say 2 people get infected. Average ICP is 5.1 days. One with a lethal one and one with a 'normal' one. The one with the lethal one gets sick at the 6th day, feels unwell and stays at home. Severe symptoms, bedridden. The other one gets mild or almost no symptoms, can move, can meet others, can work. So which one has the better chance to spread the virus to others? Never mind. The study I had posted says: " We were unable to find clear evidence that VOC202012/01 results in greater or lesser severity of disease than preexisting variants" So let's see...
The press service of the Ministry of Digital Development, Innovation and Aerospace Industry told how much it cost the new Ashyq application, which was launched as a pilot project for restaurant owners and their visitors. The essence of the project is that Kazakhstanis will be divided by color - red, yellow, blue, green - and will be allowed to enter a number of establishments using a QR code. The color depends on whether the person is sick with coronavirus and whether they have a PCR test. ICRIAP claims that the developers made the application for free. Also, the department said that the application is available only to adults. Accordingly, only adult data is planned to scan for visitors with children. To participate in the pilot, entrepreneurs can get their QR-code on the InfoKazakhstan.kz website. Visitors need to download the Ashyq application to their phone - go through authorization through the phone number, add their IIN. ⠀ When entering the establishment, scan the QR code of the establishment - this will record the visit. When you exit, scan the QR code again. A separate QR is created for each entrance to the establishment. Recall that Kazakhstanis will be divided by color - red, yellow, blue, green - and will be allowed to enter a number of establishments using a QR code. A person's color will depend on whether they are sick with coronavirus and whether they have a PCR test. Red status indicates restriction of movement, compliance with a strict regime of home isolation for persons undergoing outpatient supervision. Yellow - partial restriction of movement: the user is designated in the PCR database as a contact, it is allowed to visit grocery and hardware stores, pharmacies no further than 500 meters from the place where the patient observes the home isolation regime. Blue - there are no restrictions on movement for this status, except for places where PCR analysis is mandatory (for example, at an airport). Green status means that there are no restrictions on movement and this user is indicated in the database as having passed PCR testing with a negative result for COVID-19. The results of the pilot project will make it possible to determine in the future the terms of replication of the mobile application for entering other public places: shopping and entertainment centers, shops, restaurants, cafes, train stations, airports, and so on.
Yen, the more deadly and infectious variant does not automatically have to mean a short illness and quick death. We have all heard of long and painful deaths, have we not? So, yeah, what's so hard to understand there? It may well become widespread, depending on Public Health Policies. You know, the kind you dissed big time, because your guru said so... The kind I advocated, as opposed to you.... I thought we should be careful... You, on the other hand, didn't! Never mind, indeed...
Your way of arguing is that you consider anything that does not fit to your mindset as being written by a guru. This is exactly the issue what does prevent a healthy culture of debate and criticism of a topic that affects anybody of us. This happens everywhere in the world, journalism is poisoned by that as well. It is away from content, ad personam. Many persons get discredited that way.The reason for it is that the people have no knowledge to understand content, so they argue ad personam. (The guru thing was about herd immunity. And contrary to your out of context 'replaying' it was about cross immunity. It seems that his assumptions were wrong there, although there is no data about level of cross immunity. Actually it is not known which nation is how far away from herd immunity. And it is not even clear if Israel will be first by vaccinations. The vacine maker's studies are not designed to give an answer to that question and Peter Doshi has valid questions at his BMJ discussions). The only 'valid' argument is (and that I posted in advance) that the study I posted is not yet peer-reviewed. Who of those is the guru? Centre for Mathematical Modelling of Infectious DiseasesLondon School of Hygiene and Tropical MedicineKeppel St, London, WC1E 7HTUnited Kingdom So you think those infected with the more lethal variant just keep moving around as all the others with the normal one? I never have said that they have a short illness and quick death. I applied the average ICP of 5.1 days at both considerations. Either way, fact is that they sooner or later reflect the attributes of the virus = a higher lethality and that means lesser situations where they can meet others to spread this variant. It's nothing to do with being careful or not. I posted a scientific source which showed results that there is no evidence found. And this result is conform to what viruses have shown in the past. This is called epidemiology. MERS and Ebola did not spread. H7N9 did not spread. OC-43, which they traced back caused the Russian flu. Has become common cold. No example that would support your theory and the fearmongering media, though. And if such fearmongering of higher lethality should be used to push people to the vaccines while ignoring other facts, it might turn out being fatal in another way! If one would look at the mutations with scientific knowledge I would rather focus on the Brazilian P1 variant. I have illustrated why. It carries the UK and both SA variations! The vaccine's efficacy should drop there to the lowest amount. I would be rather concerned that the mutation rate is fast enough that it renders the vaccine approach as being useless!!! Oh and btw I have a clear idea how to fight them new variants. -Approve Ivermectin world wide (it is independent of any variant)
Exactly and such type of fighter is called: cure. Ivermectin is a cure with tested measured success by medical doctors at the Frontline on this battle in many parts of the world. But the true gem, the cure of cures, the antidote for this viral disease or any other is: chlorine dioxide. Oh yes and it's much better and cheaper than ivermectin. Used and tested by doctors saving lives many parts of the world.
during my spare time, i do a little bit of reading on this topic. i hear both sides: believers & non-believers. im no scientist or doctor, so do not want to argue if it's real or not. but, having had my experience, spent 3 years soul searching, alone, in a foreign country, with just a backpack. i did a lot of introspection & see the world as it is. i don't watch TV. i don't listen to radio. i don't read news papers. i don't subscribe to any ideology or dogma. i like to think i transcend race & other labels, handed to us by society. i treat people as individuals, not as groups, and judge each person by their character. i give everyone a fair chance. regardless of his/her's standing in life, social status, economic class, etc. that said: i live in America & can only speak about America. i have serious issues regarding the tactics used by our govt: deceit, propaganda, coercion, appointing unqualified people w/conflicts of interests as official representatives, manipulation, psychological operations, and outright lying to further their agenda. now if a regular person used those methods to convince me? i'd laugh in their face & get as far away from them as possible. i don't know if it's real or not. but the US Govt's actions are very troubling. FYI: the 1976 Swine Flu of New Jersey was fake, had no verified cases, yet millions were vaccinated. in addition, the CDC switched vaccines w/an untested vaccine w/out telling anyone or the public. here's the 60 Minutes show w/Mike Wallace from 1976 which documents everything. make up your own mind. either way, im against forced vaccination. it should our choice.
I m not in yurp. Maybe it s not as apparent there, but imo, today there s something in the air that smells like deception concerning this pandemic, the political environment, the censorship on social media platforms, the cancel culture, and there need to shut down/destroy folks who stray from a narrative. It all seems related to me. I don t think making vacine manditory wouldn t go over well for many. Considering I ve already had covid I see no need to take it, and will not if mandated to.
Yen, sure, of course, absolutely.... except that all you have written so far - after you started following your new guru - as to what is going on and what we need to do - was disproved by facts... As I just pointed out in no uncertain terms... You long post should have read: "I know, I am sorry, I keep wondering..."
I said: IT DEPENDS ON PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY, something you have shunned and danced around, not taken seriously, even openly negated as the way to go - and wanted to show it all as "fear mongering", when the sheer numbers have PROVEN YOU (i.e. your guru) WRONG, TIME AFTER TIME, AFTER TIME!!!! Time to say "Sorry, I f*&^% up! I thought we were already close to herd immunity but obviously we are not. Especially now, since we have new variants, which are not necessarily beaten by our immune system" as you kept mumbling about.... You have, summa summarum, made a big blunder with that "new guru turn" of yours, re. every major issue, as to how to fight it, what kind of public health policy to pursue, not to go down Swedish way and so on... C'mon, we all read what you posted initially, then a big turn - and now you wanna gently forget what you wrote... OK, just don't try to make it "smart" somehow, 'cause it wasn't!