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  1. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    As I stated before think, you and whoever ports a shiny badge of COVIDIOT, whatever you want.

    My posts hopefully change some suffering souls out there... Peace.

    We are adults and have freewill and common sense.
     
  2. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    OK, so:

    1) I posted facts. You can not argue with them, as we have seen...

    2) RT is not addressing the facts of numbers I mentioned (0 C-19 related deaths) but that there are covidiots (returning the "favour" with interest, thanx!), like you, who do not "believe" in facts and good policies/measures and hence "protest".

    3) Oh, dear... If only you could think at least a little bit and stay on the topic discussed...

    Your posts are teeming not only with insults but with damn eugenics "great idea" - so this coming from you is.... surprising, I must say.... very... "brave"... kettle, teapot and all that.... Is that enough ..... for you? :rolleyes: :p
     
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  3. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Yes I am all you've said. Yeah yeah.

    Also I want to Eugene you as well :p
     
  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    At least we agree on something.

    But seriously, get your head outta yer arse, man - and start dealing with facts! But not superficially, wishing the "not so favourable facts" (for your current position) would just somehow go away, magically disappear...

    I mean no harm to you and your family, you know that! Quite the opposite! To anyone and any family!

    The opposite is not the case, sadly - not with those "ideas" and conduct that follows...
     
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  5. Mr.X

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  6. MS_User

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    i find it so funny how all of the sudden new accounts pop up and immediately they jump into this thread to spread flat out lies:rolleyes:
     
  7. case-sensitive

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    >Interior Ministry hired scientists to justify corona measures

    What was the point in posting that ? ........ Are you tripping over the german language ? ...... The word ' represive ' ? ......... Theres nothing in that part article thats questionable .

    In an emergency the government asks scientists to look at tjhe situation and offer a scientific assesment ........ wich always contains a worst case scenario ........ and how to deal with it . Part of that worse case scenario is about how to enforce measures when some people are a danger to scociety .

    VT psychomorons dont understand that and try to use it in claims about reptilians / qanon / iluminati / corona conspiracys .
     
  8. antiCMOS

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    I m too old to stress over whether something will come along and snuff me or anyone else out. The way some folks talk sometimes it s like they forget that death smiles at us all:rip:
     
  9. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    Nice post. I agree.
    For that reason, death smiles at us all, anytime anywhere, I thank God every moment I remember, and for that reason I have to accept any disease could kill me. For that reason I see all this plandemic measures useless because they really are, proven. And using masks undermine my daily living, etc.
     
  10. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    No one is too old to:

    1) act in self-preservation mode

    2) act to protect others from oneself!

    So, no, it's not a "nice" post by any semi-decent standards!!! That's just BS!!!
     
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  11. Palladin

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    Pretty good discussion on the +/- of the new Covid-19 vaccine.
    Way over my head, maybe Yen can comment on whether the guy is right or wrong in his thinking.
    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241536

    And this kinda backs up his theory regarding animal transmission where he says:
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    This is not conjecture folks -- it has happened in animal husbandry and has resulted in avian flu potentiation wildly beyond what used to be the case. Avian flu strains used to kill a fair number of birds who contracted it but now, as a result of vaccines that do not present sterilizing immunity it is now nearly universally fatal among poultry. If such is detected in a flock today the usual response is immediate culling of the entire population at that location because it is nearly-certain to be fatal to the infected birds anyway and if it gets out of that facility and into another one it will kill all the birds there too.
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    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/vietnam-begins-cull-poultry-bird-flu-spreads-14-provinces
     
  12. Yen

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    #2012 Yen, Feb 9, 2021
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    The matter 'herd immunity' has absolutely nothing to do with the latest posts.

    But since you started again....I quote myself and it's great that nothing is forgotten!
    I am glad that anything is still here so people can make their own opinion.

    You still don't get that the reasoning is based on that herd immunity is supposed to be 66% of all should be immune and only 20% of all SARSCoV-2 infected get COVID-19 at all.
    Without that fact COVID-19 would be a far worse pandemic!

    Being said that once more I leave this and focus on news.:)
     
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  13. antiCMOS

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    From what I ve seen You act a bot. You
    Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh. You, no doubt, find it appauling that you can t think for everyone. My joy is you realize the fact.
     
  14. gorski

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    Of course you do - you can't think for love or money, so no wonder... I mean, even if your very life depends on you thinking - you still can't do it, ergo...

    Yen, that's ducking and diving, forgetting what you were saying, trying to put a spin on things - it won't help! We all saw how you changed your stance when you found your new guru and then now you are starting to modify your stance ever so slightly, so spinning, ducking and diving now....

    As opposed to you, I am consistent and have a coherent public health policy in mind, from start to finish....
     
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  15. Yen

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    #2015 Yen, Feb 9, 2021
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    His post is interesting. Would love to debate with him.
    Actually it's about:" Why is this mass vaccination approach for SARS-CoV2 useless, yes can even turn out as disadvantage or even a backfire".

    Some of his arguments do not apply to SARS-CoV-2, though. Or are assumptions (such as ADE = antibody dependent enhancement) which are not observed at SARS-CoV-2 so far.
    This (ADE) was an issue on the Philippines when they tried the vaccine against dengue.
    AFAIK it applies to HIV, too. But this is a retrovirus.

    And he compares to flu, which has some other attributes just like a far higher mutation rate and exchange of haemagglutinin / neuraminidase. That's why we note H1N1. When you are infected with H1N1 and with H7N9 then they can exchange and build new viruses. (H1N9 and H7N1).

    And he does not separate binding, neutralizing and sterilizing antibodies.

    He does not go into the details of current kind of vaccines which are available for SARS-CoV-2, but argues with non-sterilizing attributes.

    I share his concerns, therefore I posted frequently that it is unsure if a vaccination approach will stop the pandemic at all. I would argue a bit differently, though.

    All the more I completely agree saying this kind of vaccine is only suitable to prevent high risk people from getting severe illness and NOT suitable for a mass approach (yeah even contra productive)

    'My strongest arguments': Escape pressure, viral load dependency of respiratory system related viruses, vaccination availability overall in the world, immune system's retarded ability to produce 'updated' antigens. Real infection versus vaccination immunity...

    Yeah if we have bad luck the mass vaccination will turn out as a backfire..at least for certain groups of people / nations.....
    Either way the euphoria at this time comes from fools only...

    We need drugs like Ivermectin to have a strong addition or even a replacement.
     
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  16. vladnil

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    In Sweden, it is forbidden to wear masks: explaining this by their ineffectiveness and the risk of a greater spread of coronavirus. Writes about this The Conversation.

    ps:
    That's right - you need to introduce fines of 5,000 euros and a prison term or correctional labor for 2 years for wearing masks. :) :)
     
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  17. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Sweden has the very worst score of all its neighbours - several times over all of them put together.

    The architect of their approach to C-19 has since publicly stated that they made many errors and that now, having learnt a lot, they would certainly do it differently but hey-ho, critical thinking is not for everyone, obviously...
     
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  18. vladnil

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    Can you tell us more about Belarus? Stop believing the numbers, just open your webcams and see how people live, walk the streets, etc.
     
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  19. MS_User

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    theirs seven plus billion people on the planet guy WOW!!!!:rolleyes:
     
  20. vladnil

    vladnil MDL Senior Member

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    How 7 billion?
    And I thought there was already a golden billion left, as Margaret Thatcher said

    PS:
    Guys just look at Belarus and that's all.
    People live there and do not shake that tomorrow they will die from a fake virus
    Everyone has already realized that this is all nonsense!
     
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