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  1. Mr.X

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    Pandemic will not end until world is vaccinated, Merkel says

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-is-vaccinated-merkel-says-idUSKBN2AJ1WG?il=0


    Let's see, enlight me, feed of trustworthy information to my inferior brain... What the hell is this woman talking about? HUH?

    Someone here <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<allegedly>>>>>>>>>>>>> got already vaccinated
    That someone is out of the pandemic ahahaha
     
  2. Yen

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    Dunno, this statement of her is plain stupid.
    First of all. There never won't be a time where 'the world' is vaccinated.
    There is no evidence that the vaccines can stop the pandemic.

    SARS-CoV-2 won't vanish. It will get a similar 'state' as the flu. I mean with seasons of infections and probably declining severity.
     
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  3. Mr.X

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    All this I already know and I bet my life she/all gov. know it too. My question is rather rhetorical to exhibit the agenda hidden behind this plandemic. Many voices around the world agree.

    And don't ask me for evidence cause this is not a natural phenomenon like electricity which science can study and electricity is not trying to hide its mysteries.
     
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  5. Mr.X

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    Obliteration of mankind, well deserved

     
  6. Mr.X

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    #2086 Mr.X, Feb 24, 2021
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  7. case-sensitive

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    Hmmmmmm ...... Profesor X ...... tell us the relevance of that study please ? :) ...... what are you trying to say with it ? What do you ' think ' it means please ?
     
  8. Mr.X

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    #2088 Mr.X, Feb 24, 2021
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    Read the conclusion about ADE and its implications.
     
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    I did ....... and all the rest of it ........ thats why i asked you why you posted it ? ...... Just because it has the word covid in it ....... and it looks like a problem ?
     
  10. Mr.X

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    Really? Do I have to repeat myself?
    ADE ADE ADE implications implications implications.
    It's not because it has the word covid init
     
  11. case-sensitive

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    What implications ? How often ? How severe ?
     
  12. Mr.X

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    Lol, most likely to suffer a covid-19 so hard which could kill you. A 100% dead.
    ADE could hit you months after vaccination.
    Death. Is that severe enough?
     
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    #2094 Yen, Feb 25, 2021
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    ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) was an issue at dengue research vaccines. (Philippines).

    It is known that SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV can do that.
    At SARS-CoV-2 it is unsure, though.


    A very very good source. Although 'very' scientific.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971220307311


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    Well, we do not have to 'guess' which long(er) term side effect it would be....the fact is that we can NOT yet have an real idea about (the experiences and data are not existent due to short time of 'use').

    I rather would think about an issue with blood vessel damage (mRNA nano lipid entry to the blood vessels due to low blood flow rates e.g. capillaries)--->antigen presentation on MHC I----->CTL action--> death of cells-->damage of blood vessel--->clotting-->issues related to clotting....
     
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  15. gorski

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    Boy, you and logic have nothing in common... You really are lost generally, as opposed to Yen being lost when it comes to Public Health Policy!!!

    Yen certainly has specific knowledge re. chemistry and biology I do not have. I regularly ask him question and I LISTEN when he speaks!!! His specific knowledge commands respect!

    Where I have specific knowledge and he doesn't (history of political ideas, political philosophy, public health policy) I do criticise him in a rational manner, proving my points, being consistent, from start to finish, whereas he was NOT and hence my criticism is well founded, rational and understandable to anyone with something working between their ears!
     
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  16. gorski

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    So far so good, thanx for asking! :) Only that bit where a bee bit me... :D Nothing bad so far, thank f**ck... ;)

    Indeed! Precisely, as I just answered him earlier, without seeing your post... :)

    Precisely! Hence the question - what his advisers told him and what he understood - that's what the question is about...

    Indeed, having informed myself as much as possible, your advice here duly noted and taken on board(!!!), that was my conclusion. I went there not knowing which one they would offer and I was ready to reject the Astra Zeneca one but... I sat with a doctor there and for 15-20 minutes I went over everything with her, she listened carefully, since she has to sign off, then she answered, I had other questions and then we agreed that the one they had there is the least crappy one. Still the best with new C-19 variants and since I have to go out into the world soon and take my kids to school (reopening is near now)... It's a dangerous world and we have to navigate it somehow, choosing the lesser of evils sometimes...

    Indeed, after my questions and info given to the doc re. my allergies and so on, this is what happened, I was monitored and mercifully, all was fine....

    The reason for severe allergic reactions before (the 2 cases immediately, when they stared the programme in the UK) were in relation to a substance they used in the vaccine, commonly used during operations, to clean the insides. I had at least 3 previous operations, so it was reasonable to assume I would not have such a bad reaction to it. My allergies were to food and other natural ingredients (pollen, dust mites excrement, various hairs, tobacco, kiwi etc.).

    My light asthma was not active at the time of getting the vaccine, so the coast was clear to try it, as it were...

    Will keep you posted... :)

    With thanx for your good will and time spent informing us in a professional capacity and manner! ;)
     
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  17. gorski

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    Well, you know I am consistent, right? :D Soooo.... you ready? :p

    Pfizer vaccine + Pfizer Viagra ==> no blocked capillaries etc. :p Sorted! :D
     
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  18. Mr.X

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    Alright, unsure. Unknown, I agree, but history tell us it's very very possible with coronaviruses.

    Also immunopathology is a pretty damn scary issue.
     
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    Here's another good discussion on the harm that can be done by ADE.
    It's almost an hour long, but some good information is presented.
    And the last half she gets pretty worked up about the vaccine and the harm that can come from it.

    Dr Simone Gold: The Truth About the COVID-19 Vaccine

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  20. Mr.X

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    Nothing new for me and many others but look, look some keywords on her speech:
    Crime vs. humanity, lies, misinformation, harmful oxygen treatment, falsehood, denying alternative therapies, etc. etc. etc.
    For me and many others those words equals "conspiracy".
    This is a conspiracy vs humanity whether some like it or not.
    Everything's planned for the few to get most of the many.