None of this can possibly be!!!! I mean, really.... because the pandemia doesn't exist to begin with!!!! It's all lies! Hot air! Total BS! Why would anyone take care about something that doesn't exist!!! Whoof, whoof!!!
I didn't talk about the pandemic, I talked about the mRNA vaccines and how they are sold to us. About a facebook group who simply got deleted with 200,000 members who joined together to exchange concerns / feelings / thoughts about their adverse events after vaccination. Can you even imagine how those people do feel now? Is this human? About Malone who made reservations to the FDA about the spikes saying that their modification (one of them which suits the spike with an anchor so it can reside in the cell and not escape) should have been properly tested before clinical trials were started. Generally to test if the vaccine behaves the way which it is supposed to be. The lie is reasoned in the fact that they say it is safe (as safe as a common vaccine) without to really have checked fundamental attributes and if it works how it should. They behave like they know anything about how the vaccine is working. But they never followed the master rule of pharmacology. Anything new must be considered as a poison except when proven otherwise. Now there are new results. Far to late. Spike is found in the bloodstream, bone marrow, organs. The lipid shell accumulates in ovaries, in testes not and so on. According to Malone an 'odd' behaviour which should have been known far before....nobody can assess what that means in future... The 'odd' thing is that the vaccine makers have focused on the S protein and it is highly probably the S protein that causes post and long covid issues. The S1 subunit is toxic. I guess you haven't heard what Malone had said. Dream on.
Yen, read again this carefully: See? Pinky only wants to be adversary in this discussion with you, me or anyone else just for winning the discussion using twisted ideas and use if complex English (verborhea). He should be outrightly banned from this community. We're facing extraordinary hard times with all psychopaths censoring important unbiased information. MDL is a great place to vent such information. MDL doesn't need to republish mainstream propaganda, like pinky does, for that we have the whole internet.
Contrary to the social media I would not ban anyone for opinion, it would make us appear like drawn down to the same level. I don't know if somebody considers this like a game where a winner has to be determined...well what would I or somebody win at all? More ego? Somebody posted a link where one was concerned about spikes. I said...this is not possible according to medical mechanisms of antigen presentation. I of course assumed that the vaccine is working like it's supposed to be..including to have tested anything, also their anchors which make it impossible the spikes can leave the cell before it gets recognized by the immune cells... People who do not make the efforts to get infos from various sources are not aware about the ongoing censorship. (OMG I saw a lot of contributions which simply got removed, without valid reasons). What's happening today with the vaccines and suppression of established drugs will be a new story for history books as a new chapter of medical dark ages. A chapter like this or similarly...just a reality in blue..a reflection of the 'main-stream' The vaccines are safe because they are safe. The side effect you have encountered is not from the vaccine, because the vaccines are safe. The vaccines have been thoroughly reviewed and EUA has been granted. So they are safe. The vaccines are safe because they must not be unsafe. Vaccination has been declared as means to end the pandemic. They are not allowed to be criticized. They must be successful. They will be successful. Why? Because it has been decided so. I believe they are safe. I believe the authorities and the people behind them, so I finally got vaccinated. The decision was not easy, but I trusted the authorities. I trusted their opinion that vaccines will end the pandemic and that I finally will get back my common freedom. And there is a day where I can forget about the pandemic, thanks to the vaccines. I have made this decision..that time....and it was a hard decision...I cannot allow myself to get confronted with the idea that I might have been wrong. So I smash anything that looks like an counterargument against vaccines from the very beginning. I do not look at the arguments, I start calling names to the author of those. I put them into groups such as gurus, conspiracy adherents, deniers, fools, dissidents.... I avoid any rational and scientific exchange / discourse because I don't have to go for them because I am right and the others are wrong. I will continue with what I do until anybody can see that I am right...and if it should take ages..so what.... until then I suppress anything around me until I succeed and I keep up the state of a pandemic until an irrational percentage of the nation is vaccinated. Others said already the spikes will do harm. I disagreed saying they cannot leave the cell. They actually cannot, but there is a flaw and they are found NOW outside the cells and not before as it should have been at proper preclinical studies. I watched the vaccine development closely. I considered to take one....a bit later....a classical one. But today I am glad I did not. I never will. I do not want to be a part of that dark age. I am mature to think differently. When the pandemic has started...oh well I never expected that all the fundamental flaws at human self-awareness which surely exist will accumulate and get manifest in such a global mess of disinformation, censorship and abuse of powers... I do not want to be a part of this and my decision against vaccination is not only medically reasoned anymore.
Lemme fix that for you: a new chapter of dark ages in man's history. COVID-19, coronavirus, vaccines and all the lies and manipulation around them is just the beginning of what is coming. Yen, thanks for staying in the right path and away from the dark side. You as a scientist, are a very important person and admin staff to maintain this forum in such a right path.
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Last Tuesday 7/6/21 I went to have my teeth cleaned. All went well, and they included along with a new toothbrush, some Colgate toothpaste. Two days later I tried it out, and didn't notice much difference between the Colgate and my regular toothpaste. That night, Thursday, when I went to bed I had a very slight tickling in my throat, but didn't think a thing about it. But the next morning, Friday, when I got up, I had more than a tickling, I had a real sore throat. Like the kind you get when you sleep on your back, and snore all night. But it got worse as the day wore on, and I developed a cough, along with some intermittent sneezing. Could the Colgate toothpaste cause this. I didn't seem to make any sense that I could. The next day, Saturday, the sneezing got more frequent as well as the cough. The sneezing reminded me of a long time ago when I got a yearly Flue shot, and I sneezed nonstop for almost a week. Went through 2 or 3 boxes of Kleenex. So the toothpaste idea is history, maybe a sore throat, but sneezing. No chance. It has to be something else Seeing as how I have never, ever gotten a cold or the flu in the summer I had to consider that I might have caught Covid-19 somewhere, somehow. Nothing comes to mind specifically that might be where I picked it up. Haven't taken the jab yet. From this website: https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-19-symptoms#1 They outline the symptoms of Covid-19. I have some, but many I don't. But it's only been 4 days since the start of the symptoms. I have a 50ml bottle of 1% Ivermectin and I'm thinking of starting to take a daily dose for a week or so, just in case it's the real thing, I'll pick up some yogurt today and follow Yen's suggestion on how to take the solution orally. So what do you guys think? .
It seems a common cold to me, a mild one. But who really knows. 0. Start monitoring your oxygen saturation. 1. Stop eating refined sugars immediately. 2. Start drinking fresh green juices, just 2 glasses per day, morning and night. And as many citric fruits as you can eat. 3. No dairy, no junk food. 4. No food no substances that acidify your body. 5. Zero antipyretics, let your systems fight back properly. If it rises above 40°C a cold compress might help. If you start to desaturate go for Yen's advice. When you get healthy again go back to your junk food and trash habits
C-19 doesn't exist! It's BS! OK? Don't worry, Mr. Dr. X is here to guide us all... Yen, have you really learned from the Thalidomide fiasco? I remember you being really "hard", unfeeling towards those victims... I am consistent, I was attacking your harsh (or worse!) stance back then, I still have the same stance - it's good you are NOW advocating proper scrutiny of pharma industry... But I wonder, if you wouldn't change your position yet again, next time you feel you could change it, 'cause it's easier or whatever....
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Yeah well....changing position. It's about a decision that affects me personally...AKA to decide to take a vaccine or not. As news about evolve of course there is change of position. The Thalidomide case has one important difference, though. The general methodology how to approve a drug that time sooner or later had to lead to a huge issue. Pregnancy was not protected as it should. The Thalidomide case completely led to a renewal of how drug approval should be. Pharmacovigilance got a completely new meaning. At SARS-COV-2 vaccines we have an emergency use authorization. Means the methodology is allowed to be shortened per politics. The rest is pretty much the same. Especially the question: 'Who' is responsible / liable for the adverse events / bad outcome at some individuals? And I just saw one video I've posted before of Malone speaking out about spikes also has been removed! Is there one valid argument that would justify this action at all?!? I mean who if not him has more knowledge about mRNA tech than the inventor himself? THIS also is what I mean.... I do not want to support that by closing my eyes! Your symptoms exactly match those of my brother's two weeks ago. I was a bit excited so I took my IVM with me when I visited him... just in case... I have got quick antigen tests from my company. I tested him and he was negative. Then the cough even got worse...but no fever at all. I thought the test might have failed. He went to a test station three days later also being negative. It took 2 weeks until the cough got better....I had given him 10 IVM tablets 12 mg....he did not start to take them. Each situation is different. IVM is supposed to work best as sooner as one starts to use it. No fever and rather wet cough tends towards common cold. Can you do a (quick) test? How is your situation where you live..I mean the infection rate ATM?
Now it's clear why people are discussing which drug is best! Instead of asking themselves the question, is this drug even necessary or not? Maybe you don't need it at all! It doesn't matter. Because everyone has already started discussing which is better or worse. So here we are, looking for what drugs and where they were produced and what are their effects? Guys, that was just sarcasm. It said Moderna drugs are unnecessary because they are useless Because of the absence of Covid19 in nature (it's all a hoax). I feel sorry for you all. But it won't be long before you all die. PS: How positive I am today.
Yen: Like your brother I have no fever, just a bad cough that on a pain scale of 1-10 is a solid 8 whenever I cough. Over the last weekend my symptoms got much worse, and whenever I sneezed and covered my mouth with my hand it was full of liquid. Clear liquid, looks like water, and it covered my entire hand. The sneezes were constant every few minutes, and I've gone through almost 1/2 box of Kleenex in just 2 days cleaning up the mess. It's obvious my lungs are full of liquid, and my body is doing everything it can to get rid of it. Yesterday, on Sunday I took 1-1/2 cc/grams of Ivermectin and hoped for the best. Bedtime was touch and go. Got up at 11:00pm, 1:00am, 4:00am but believe it or not I felt much better when I got up. The constant sneezing just became ever once in a while. And while the cough still hurt it too became much less frequent. So it looks like Ivermectin might have been responsible for lessening my symptoms. Today, Monday, I feel pretty good,much better than over the last weekend. Whatever it was, it sure kicked my butt. I followed you advice by taking the Ivermectin with Yogurt. I took a small cup and put one teaspoon of yogurt, mixed 1-1/2 cc/g of Ivermectin in the yogurt, added another teaspoon of yogurt and mixed it thoroughly and ate it. Tasted weird to be honest. I did have one problem getting the Ivermectin out of the bottle. The syringe that i was using was the slip on type and it wouldn't hold pressure when I went to pressurize the bottle to withdraw the Ivermectin. I solved the problem by just inserting another needle in the stopper to allow air to get in and let me fill the syringe. I filled the slip on syringe with 3 days worth of Ivermecttin so tomorrow when the last of it is dispensed, I'll clean the slip on syringe and replace it with a Luer Lock syringe and see if that will allow me to pressurize the vial so I can extract the Ivermectin without having to add another needle to relieve the pressure. I'm going to follow this once a day regimen for a week to see what happens. So far so good. .
Thanks for your comment about me that you can see i am a rare illiterate idiot myself mdl052020 Thanks again for your comment
@Yen, there are 2 issues with your constantly shifting position: 1) He may be wrong, he is not a god. Moreover, once the Genie is out of the bottle, things may change - the new guys may have changed his invention according to their research, things he may not be aware of... As for cardio problems with mRNA: every drug has some cases which are "off" from the "norm", i.e. great majority of people do react similarly and small minority differ. No matter how mild a drug. Most have recovered fully but bear in mind that the incidents were TINY in numbers overall. Why is that important? Because you are doing it again: when you changed your position re. C-19 you claimed very, very tiny death rate (that was the only argument you had when you wanted to scale it all down, whereas I also pointed to long Covid etc.) and from it you wanted weaker measures, as opposed to me. Now, these numbers (with some people's hearts affected) are even smaller than that but you have a very different position, suddenly. Now the very tiny numbers of such incidents are suddenly very significant! You are adrift! You can't have it both ways! 2) Principle is a principle and even though we haven't had the protection in place for Thalidomide, you were pretty harsh when I raised the issue and you claimed they (the victims/public) had no right to such "drastic protection/measures". I was shocked back then and I told you so, straight away! Which is why I now pose the same question, which you seem to dance around and sometimes demand/allow those protections and sometimes they are "not so important" - so, you seem to be adrift at times, as you find suitable for your interests at the time... I also want the measures/protections but I consistently invoke those. The difference right now was Time: we had to act fast, such was the scale of the problem and everybody capable of abstract, critical thinking knew that. So, yes, FAST - BUT! - with plenty of test subjects, this must be said. And I agree with you we must scrutinise those new products vigorously - but one must allow for the emerging seriously dangerous situations. I mean, if they had too small a number of test subjects - OK... But that was not so, even though both of us were not amused by some of them (AZ) masking various symptoms by giving test subjects large doses of Paracetamol after vaccination etc. So, the same principles must apply in the same manner, of course.
The Nuremberg Code as a prevention of universal vaccination The Nuremberg Code is the international document governing the principles of medical experimentation on human beings. The Code was developed and adopted after the Nuremberg Trials of Physicians in 1947, which resulted in a large number of doctors, their leaders and inspirers being sent to the gallows... The Code states the prohibition of all experiments on human beings!!! The next universal legal document is called Article 6 of the 2005 UNESCO Statement on Bioethics and Human Rights. It reads: Article 6, Section 1: Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical interventions must be carried out only with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. If necessary, consent shall be expressed and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason. Article 6, Section 3: In no case shall a community collective agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for the informed consent of individuals. Thus, any directive from any parliament, president, or any official on compulsory vaccination would violate Article 6 of the UNESCO Declaration on Human Rights and Bioethics. By the same token, they would violate the Nuremberg Code, especially Article 1 and Article 6. No experiment should be conducted if there is reason to believe that the subject is likely to die or suffer a disabling injury; an exception might be when physician-researchers act as subjects in their experiments.
Thanks for posting details. It's really exactly the same what you say compared to my brother's description of symptoms. He mentioned also a strong pain on the lung while coughing... I found it reasonable to go for a proper diagnostic way.... Determined symptoms which also belong to covid and then to go for a test. When he told me after 3 days that cough got worse and painful I did not know what to do. Starting IVM or not...false negative? The test had been negative on the other hand symptoms were really bad and IVM has very low side effects if at all. Then I reminded of a video...Dr. Syed also thought he might have covid and started to use IVM. After 2-3 days he felt much better already. Later he did an antibody test. He had no abs and probably no covid. In theory the MOA of ivermectin should also fight human beta corona viruses. And flu like symptoms in summertime are frequently caused by human corona viruses. So it can work here as well. Your decision to start IVM is fine. I personally would have started as well (also because I like own research). My brother got tested negative (antigen and PCR). So I said up to you. He said he wants to keep the IVM for real covid in the future. Yes, there is no scientist who always is / was right....even experts. And details are different (even Moderna compared to Pfizer is different). Malone surely does understand them IF published. The 3rd mRNA vaccine of Curevac has even failed. Why? Something is definitely different. But that is actually not the point. There is no open scientific discussion possible due to censorship! Malone actually cannot be wrong, because he said he does not know what 'it' can mean in the future. The manufacturer of mRNA vaccines did assure that the spikes cannot leave the cells per design. And now spikes were found in humans (study at nurses). The lipids are found all over the body even though the vaccine is supposed to stay in the deltoid muscle, but it does not. They concentrate in the ovaries and also bone marrow. (Mice study, though) Malone also speaks of signalling for long term effects. This 'just' means. There are signals (by that there is potential for short and long term issues) which should make us monitoring 'that' very closely.!!! He speaks of overlap of post covid / long covid symptoms and post vaccination effects. He speaks of adverse event databases and that they only grasp the top of the iceberg and the data are not suitable to make predictions... He speaks of endpoints. He is saying that reaching herd immunity is an absurd endpoint since the covid vaccines are not made for reaching it! Calculating the percentage for herd immunity is absurd and has nothing to do with science since there is no data base for the calculation available. He speaks of a completely new vaccine. He speaks of an experiment. He speaks about that non adults are not mature to make decisions. He speaks of bioethics, Nuremberg code etc... The 'officials' just block anything of that! They filter anything out that is not saying the vaccines are safe.