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  1. case-sensitive

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    Politicians consider stupid their citizens. It's shocking. Here in Mexico they offer one tortilla with spoiled beans = nada
     
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  4. Mr.X

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    We're all gonna die!!!!!!
    God heeeelp us!!!
     
  5. gorski

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    Gawd help us, indeed...

    X & co. you failed to sync with your brain.... Here...

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    P.S. @Yen, no there are no safe alternatives which can work on this level, so your thinking is seriously flawed...

    P.P.S. Me quoting Fox? I'll shoot myself later...
     
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    That's the one thing I've bitched about since this whole Covid-19 thing started. Without a reference to the infection rate as a percentage of the population you have no idea as to the severity of the infection.

    Here's something I put together for the 50 states of the US, that lists every State, number of total infections and deaths with the percentage calculated by population for the infection rate, and total deaths.

    And I would submit that the infection rates reported without some sort of reference to the Cycle Threshold would be much lower than reported.

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    Your 2% is not correct. It doesn't matter the case count, recovered, etc.
    The only thing that matters is the death count as a percentage of the population.
    With the total deaths at 629,064 and the population of the USA is approx 328,300,000.
    Then 629,064 / 328,3000 = 0.192% not 2%

    The spreadsheet I put together differs slightly from those numbers because I didn't include these:
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  12. Mr.X

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    #2852 Mr.X, Jul 31, 2021
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    Really I hope admins understand yet not agree when I make harsh and very rude comments vs people like @gorski who think they are always right and that blindly listening mass media is the right thing to do.

    Now that you have your share of poison, from Pharmafia, keep adoring your neocomunist bosses...
    Good luck, you're gonna need bunches.

    DEADLY SHOTS! Former Pfizer Employee Confirms Poison in COVID 'Vaccine'

    https://rumble.com/vkgdq7-deadly-shots-former-pfizer-employee-confirms-poison-in-covid-vaccine.html
     
  13. gorski

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    Rumble?!?!?!? Serves you right, ...

    The article/link I posted re. the rates is much more specific and precise in explaining why these numbers can NOT be deemed absolute, from the fact that not all cases are reported onwards... One must be really careful here...
     
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  14. Yen

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    #2854 Yen, Aug 1, 2021
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    I accept this opinion.

    By posting what you have posted you also have to accept that if you should be wrong you would be also at least mentally responsible for the suffering and deaths of people which could have been saved IF I am right (and the FLCCC and the docs already using them with success, according to their statements and the tons of studies available).

    Those drugs could be distributed worldwide in a huge amount very quickly and cheap. It does not happen because there are people like you who think they are of no benefit.

    You can be wrong; I can be wrong. It doesn't really matter. We both don't have the real responsibility for the public health.

    (Well I have those meds handy because I personally go exactly that way.) But when it gets clearer that the authorities are wrong by that...well then a medical tragedy of misleading, ignorance and greed will be written in our history books.

    Lots of people would rather put them on IVM weekly instead of getting the vaccines now...waiting for more long term data or for conventional like Novavax. Or they simply don't have the vaccines available....
    BTW: Can you explain why India 'suddenly' dropped as if they would vaccinate like Israel?
    Well, I know it...

    I am wondering how you determine personally "on this level". It's still not clear to me what the current level of protection of the vaccines actually is...
    It seems the overall efficacy is lower than determined at the studies for getting EUA. Has it declined or wasn't it that high from the very beginning?

    It is really hard to get data which are not distorted by the collective mind of authorities, a mind that does not think rationally. It only knows the vaccines. Spreading a distorted pro image of them and a distorted con image of the cheap alternatives.

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    For all those who want to have real info avoiding censorship of youtube. Most have also their stuff on odysee already.

    News from the FLCCC:"FLCCC Weekly Update 28 July 2021: Covid-19 Variants, PCR Tests, Nurses for FLCCC and more!"

    https://odysee.com/@FrontlineCovid19CriticalCareAlliance:c/flccc-weekly-update-28-july-2021-covid:6
     
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  15. Mr.X

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    #2855 Mr.X, Aug 1, 2021
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    Yes I know and they have their own app to browse and watch videos:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.lbry.browser

    Did anyone try it already?
    It seems too buggy on my Android 8.1 Go phone. It keeps crashing so frequently I want to cry.
     
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    @Yen: look at the data, as anyone can...
     
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  18. Yen

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    #2858 Yen, Aug 2, 2021
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    Lol are you kidding me? :) From where?!? Israel or UK?

    To the topic "knowing current level of the vaccines protection"....

    You should know me. I always look at the sources not at 'articles' from somewhere.
    If you would do that as well you notice there is a huge difference in results. (UK study compared to Israel).

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891?query=featured_home

    And here original Israel data (even in Hebrew) tables are sort of English, too.
    https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/repor...ications_corona_two-dose-vaccination-data.pdf
    Last page of the pdf..very interesting..!!!

    Israel finds that the Pfizer vaccine is declining in effectiveness whereas the NEJM study from UK results in a robust effectiveness after 2nd vaccination.
    Even the mainstream newspaper are picking up this discrepancy.

    https://www.jpost.com/ israel-pfizer-news/is-israel-or-the-uk-right-when-it-comes-to-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-674766

    Oh and btw.....the wallstreet journal has picked up the IVM story.
    The article is not free, but actually enough....

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-iv...s-anti-science-11627482393?mod=article_inline

    "Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug?
    Ivermectin is a promising Covid treatment and prophylaxis, but the agency is denigrating it."

    gorski, you are clearly on the wrong side saying there is no safe drug which can keep pace with the vaccines....truth will unveil...but sadly slowly on the costs of people's life.

    And the data about the vaccines are not sufficient and that much inconsistent to say something about the vaccine's approach to fight the pandemic.
    Since fatality rate of COVID-19 is low either way it can even turn out that the vaccines don't add some noticeable absolute benefit.
    When only 10% get severe, it doesn't matter if the effectiveness is 86 (January blue bars) or 91% (all fully vaccinated)

    But I am glad that you have a clear idea about the vaccines; I don't have that. :)
     
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  19. Mr.X

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    SMACK!
    RIGHT IN YOUR PINK CHEEK @gorski
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  20. Mr.X

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    Spike protein is cytotoxic. It's known for causing all covid-19 symptoms.
    Spike protein is found in the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2
    New gene therapeutic inoculations subvert your genetic machinery to fabricate spike protein
    ERGO
    New gene therapies platforms wrongly called vaccines are extremely dangerous.

    PERIOD
    NO NEED TO DISCUSS ITS EFFICIENCY WHICH CLEARLY DOESN'T EXIST.