BUT those numbers are made by LIARS! Liars you hear so vehemently. Liars lying about safety of new vaccines. How profound is your fear that you fool yourself believing new vaccines are safe. So profound you ignore other scientists and doctors. For instance: I could keep going posting many other names but I think you follow me. You have one or two or maybe ten saying otherwise, that vaccines are absolutely SAFE. WRONG! LIES! Off-topic: why why why. Why you English speakers use the word "lie" for both to lean back (to move your body away from a vertical position so that it is bent forward or resting against something) and to to tell an untruth? Geez!
I guess you didn't quite understand what I have posted. The vaccines got EUA for the data the vaccine makers provided at phase III for the EUA process. With that it is bound to certain usage for a certain cohort, means certain dose, 2 shots, given gap between them. Anything else (3rd jab) is outside of the EUA!!! Political arbitrariness away from evidence based science. Furthermore you have to expect since the vaccines are waning, that their protection against severe COVID and deaths will be wane, too. It's still the old spike. Whether the 3rd jab is working or not is now a result of a human experiment without being backup'ed by previous clinical trials and outside of the granted EUA.
I still fail to see how it will not work without a new mutation but OK... Anyway, state and corporate scientists are always working, so... I suppose, sooner or later, we'll have a more efficient one... But again: numbers! Still very effective (against death/hospitalisation)!
Look at what @Yen posted! Then look up the lambda variant, I posted it ages ago in here! You don't have to reply to every bit of rubbish posted in here. X, yand z have this thread looking like a gossip column!
PROVE IT! prove it! Prove that some scientific evidence I posted in this thread, is rubbish. The thing here is you don't like me, maybe my manners my personality, don't know. Prejudice. That's it. So now prove is rubbish what I've been posting I'm this thread. You see as gossip anything that diverts from the official narrative.
Thankfully, I miss some rubbish in here... Mercifully, Lambda is still not in the wider picture... As I said, scientists do not exactly stop working on these issues... Have a little faith in Human ingenuity, guys... This is from US healthcare pros...
Anecdotal rubbish. Lies and manipulation. I see where I live all the same idiots (some neighbors) still walking around. Despite they still eat junk food as primally source, obese, beer drinkers, smokers, diabetics, covid hasn't taken them away lol. No apocalyptic vibe here.
It doesn't matter what you think about. It doesn't matter what anybody else thinks about. (me included). Without evidence it is meaningless! You should know that individual views and evidence based science are completely different. It's not only about 'it works' = efficacy. It's also about adverse events, safety etc.... If you agree with the way the 3rd jab has been 'established' like "it should work" THEN you should not wonder why tragedies such as Thalidomide had happened! The vaccines don't have got any science based authorization for the 3rd jab! The requirement for EUA had been >60% efficacy..... Somebody thought 'it should be OK'...so then apply it to the masses ?!?! What if the 3rd jab compromises the immune system? Do you think you can push it again and again and that with an experimental gene based vaccine that has never been used in human medicine before? Scientists cannot overcome natural attributes of the virus. You have to update the vaccines every 6 months. They won't stop the pandemic. You probably will get better vaccines (at respiratory tract related infection) when you administer it as an aerosol. This is closer to the natural way of entry to your body (infection). OK. Nobody can predict how the virus will mutate further and where. Here is a good site (besides of nextstrain.org) https://covariants.org/variants/21H.Mu This is interesting for the µ variant. It has got a stop codon on mutation. This means it cannot replicate completely anymore and highly probably will extinct due to being 'retarded'... You can check where the variants have mutated. Then you can check which function will be affected. For instance if it has mutated there where the RdRp is created, you know this enzyme will be affected. You now what this enzyme does and how it could change the variant's attributes...and so on...
Something to think about. Granted it's just one person talking about it. https://www.projectveritas.com/news...oes-public-with-secret-recordings-government/ And a follow up regarding what was said. https://market-ticker.org/nad ..
Jesu Marx wept. It is getting circular and tiresome.... One more time... We have tons of evidence that the vaccines are still very effective (Lambda not yet tested that I know of) in terms described - very, very tiny numbers of people ending up in hospitals and even tinier dying of C-19!!! It really does NOT matter what you guys - who are seriously biased against it and have built a concrete shelter against all the data coming out in huge numbers - think about it, I agree.... The problem is when you are acting on it and start organising people on that biased and seriously dogmatic basis!!! Which is really weird... Initially, Yen was all about the numbers, when he was following his guru - numbers say this is NOT a pandemic! Now that the numbers say clearly that vaccines are effective - numbers suddenly do not matter... Nice... It's beyond me how one can totally side-line such overwhelming evidence.... There is also evidence that there are very, very few incidences of side-effects - yes, there are, we know of it - but what is the alternative? Anyone came up with something better in such a short period of time? At this point when one starts talking about Ivermectine (or worse) as completely replacing vaccines, i.e. used instead of vaccines - I call that quackery! Pure and simple!
This, this is why I won't get the vaccine ME: CDC, should I get poke if I already had Covid? CDC: “Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.” ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poke-induced immunity last? CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are poked.” ME: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity? CDC: … ME: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades? CDC: Yes. NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.” ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity? CDC: Possibly. You never know. ME: Okay. If I get the poke, does that mean I won’t get sick? BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people. ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke? CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them. ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases? CDC: That’s right. ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me? CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death. ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death. CDC: We don’t know “exactly.” ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is? CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question. ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it? CDC: Yes, for the collective. ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked? CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die. ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else? CDC: Yes. ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else? CDC: Yes. ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the poke? CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk. ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating? CDC: No. ME: So it can still mutate in poked people? CDC: Yes. ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke? CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people. ME: But what KIND of threat?? CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die. ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the poke doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it?? CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now. ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get poked, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long poke immunity lasts. And I should get the poke to keep a poked person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the poke, I can give it to the poked person anyways. And, the other poked person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right? … ME: Um, hello? An example of authorities LYING! LYING to comply with their true masters, the drug cartel Pharmafia.
The lie about victims of IVM overdose in Oklahoma has left an ideology which is hard to correct as always (truth has a far harder way to return once lies are established). Such a mess would not happen if the authorities would do their job and EUA IVM instead of a 3rd jab like Israel without to really know without clinical trials before what people have to expect. You might want to see the press conference of professor Arne Burkhardt and professor Walter Lang. Autopsy of 10 deaths which are related to COVID vaccination. They were astonished about the results...and ASKED urgently for more autopsies. They also assumed a huge amount of underreporting. Do you honestly think you get informed about all real adverse events? Not me. I personally know 4 adverse events of 4 different people I know. -rash after vaccination -myocarditis after vaccination -reappearing of dormant virus (shingles). 3 weeks after vaccination -heavy bleeding at menstruation 1 week after 2nd shot This is not conform to mainstream media reporting! The databases are full of adverse events. They got more reports they got the last decade before.
Underreporting is one thing - and should be addressed, of course, as much as humanly possible... and it still won't be "perfect"! However, the data we have is on such a scale - to claim that underreporting is so bad world-wide(!!!???) that it would alter these numbers significantly... Oh, well... I really think that the above cartoon I put up is relevant here, @Yen... The whole thing here is becoming meaningless, as methodical blind spots are being deployed really mercilessly, so what's the point?!?
I'd love to see your face if one of those few few incidences hit your children. My son's been told sooner or later vaccination cert will be required to keep his job. My son is only 19 yrs old and I love him so much. The sole news brought me to tears and rage.
Vaccinate adolescents and children against SARS-CoV-2? What for? Good morning to all the members of Akasha Community. A few days ago I sent you a letter that addressed precisely this question: why vaccinate children and adolescents against SARS-COV-2? Today I raise it again, given the stir caused yesterday by the Pfizer-BioNTech statement on which they had data showing that the vaccine is immunogenic in people 5 to 11 years of age. Immunogenic, I remind you, it means that you generate an immune response against something (in this case the vaccine). There is nothing surprising in the fact that after injecting the vaccine into the arm of a child, within days it generates antibodies. Among other things, that is what our immune system does: it recognizes what is its own from what is foreign and mounts various responses against it. Spike protein is already known to be immunogenic and the immune system of healthy children is known to be strong and precise. Bravo! They have just demonstrated what has been known to humans for decades and what reflects a biological process that takes about 450 million years. However, the fact that children generate antibodies does not mean that 1) the vaccine is safe beyond the extremely short time that the study lasted (which, incidentally, has not been published in any scientific journal to date , September 21, 2021), and that 2) it adequately protects against the variants that are now circulating (remember the ADE processes that I explained before). The risk of becoming ill and dying from a SARS-COV-2 infection in people ages 5 to 11 (the group they now want to vaccinate) is known to be ignorable. There is not a single study that demonstrates changes in the new variants (delta, lamda, mu, etc.) that explain a difference in the interaction of the virus and the host and, much less, that demonstrate that the virus is now lethal or dangerous for children. Not one as of today. So what is the scientific, medical justification for wanting to vaccinate children? I share the link to an article that appeared just a few days ago in the scientific journal "Toxicology Reports", and that was sent to me by Dr. Manuel Aparicio, to whom I am deeply grateful. The study addresses precisely that lack of medical and scientific justification for vaccinating children. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221475002100161X I hope it is useful to you and I send you greetings, Karina AW https://t.me/akashacomunidad/555
I would NOT love to see your face when/if one of your family/friends would be hit by a hard case of C-19 because they were not vaccinated... But that's just me... as opposed to you, who would love to see something this bad... A very good indicator, a radical difference between the Left, generally speaking people who start with solidarity, equaliberty and justice as their main principle (me included) and the Right (you), starting with Schadenfreude, in this case, "informed" by the Rights' general principles of domination, exploitation, privilege etc.... As for vaccinations: there are counter-indications which are discussed with a doctor, as I explained here, BEFORE one gets vaccinated!!!! But OK, don't let that stop you - you're on a roll, "everybody is stupid, no matter how educated, only I, Mr X, can see these things...!" Really laughable!!! Hallelujah!!!
Who do you think has a better foundation from which to protest?!? "Hundreds of people rallied outside the United Nations headquarters in New York City to demand an end to global vaccine inequality as the General Assembly’s 76th session is underway. 81% of all COVID-19 vaccine shots worldwide have been administered in 10 high and upper-middle-income countries. By contrast, less than 4% of the African population has been vaccinated. Less than 1% of people in low-income countries are fully vaccinated. Denouncing what they referred to as “vaccine apartheid,” protesters demanded Western pharmaceutical companies and governments to relinquish control over their vaccine patents and technology."
You don't get at all what I mean. It has a huge impact on own risk/benefit evaluation! When you are in an age group where COVID-19 severity and fatality rate is very low either way but adverse events are significant at that age group ..for instance young male. When you compare IFR (the ratio of COVID-19-associated deaths to the total number of SARS-CoV-2 infections) to fatality at vaccination it might turn out that the risk to die from vaccine is higher than from covid. To get that clear it is important to have all numbers right. Edit: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1 Or: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-020-00698-1/tables/3 If you see here the age group 0-34 has the same chance to die from covid as from "Other accidental fatalities" 0.004% for England. So if you have there now additional risk to die / severe adverse events from vaccine it would be unreasonable to get the vaccine!!! Or another consideration...I cannot vaccinate myself against "Other accidental fatalities". Why should I for COVID which has the same risk when I am 0-34 years old????? I calculated <=26 years. I know a doc not vaccinating people under the age of 30 and this source says risk "Other accidental fatalities"" is the same when being 0-34 years. So it is very important to have no underreporting at all!!! It might be even under 40 or 45 who knows??? And this all does not consider that the vaccines are far off from 100% protection. But it seems for now to get vaccine being healthy, under the age of 34 especially when being male is unreasonable. For some for sure. AFAIK it has started with discovery / research at dengue, HIV and zica. If its MOA fits to the viral replication it can. Edit: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7564151/ Edit2: Hmmm. is there a chance to fake the cert?