@Yen, it's hard to see things like this happening! But as I said above the end of the time is coming and it seems that it will come with a lot of fury from our powerful eternal father only my 2 cents
Another Nobel laureate (X) who can't distinguish between elementary notions, in this case cause and effect... On a serious note: this morning on BBC Radio 4 there were 3 experts, all professors and at the end the moderator asked them about what would they advise the Gov, given that Omicron is less dangerous... The last of them immediately said "I would not presume it is less dangerous by any means, since we do not know enough, via controlled tests, comparable groups etc." Not long after that the PM warns about the first death due to Omicron and all previous presumptions fall into the fast flowing river... We live in "interesting times"....
yes gorski I agree 100% and as i said above the end times is next humanity should still recover the gravity of the situation and urgently need to take a stand I think...
Vaccination of children, Communiqué of the Argentine Society of Pediatrics: Neither ethical, nor epidemiological, nor scientific https://cienciaysaludnatural.com/va...ria-ni-etico-ni-epidemiologico-ni-cientifico/
Old mechanisms, interesting times. There is actually nothing more dangerous in life than an upset group of people which suffers from fear. Their mind is sick and the perception distorted. This cannot be compensated by 'intelligence'. The mentioned 'last one professor' EVEN questions a general law of epidemiology therefore! Politicians and many scientists are suffering from that and to me it is actually the real 'pandemic'. Such a group of people either can drag you into their world by trying to infect you with the same illusionary perception OR they restrict the 'sane' people more and more by realizing measures against their illusionary threat. Dictators used that to control the people. The only weapon against this is to actively look at original data sources and scientific publications. And to avoid all 'experts' out there who are trying to establish an apocalyptic scenario. Also no MSM news at all.
Actually, it started killing from yesterday and today we have 200.000 daily cases in the UK... So, interesting times ahead... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ls-told-to-discharge-patients-where-possible? About 50% of them are in London. But I have a counter-question for you: how many people are you willing to sacrifice before you would enact vaccination programme, coupled with serious measures? How many, Yen? What is the alternative? We already have millions dead (especially in some countries, Sweden included: "for the comfort of the majority who want to continue as before the pandemic"), so how many (more) weak and susceptible people would you sacrifice on the altar of your understanding of "acceptable risk"/statistics?!? Science without conscience? If that is your understanding of science, then we are at serious odds!!! ===IN ADDITION, TO EXPLAIN A BIT BETTER THE PROBLEMS I SEE WITH SUCH A POSITION=== What is the alternative that a small part of scientific community is suggesting?!? Precisely, how many weak and susceptible people would they be willing to sacrifice on the alter of their understanding of "acceptable risk"/statistics?!? What is a "good model" of "decent society", which would function in a civilised manner - how exactly, if we have completely clogged up hospitals, f we have burnt-out medical staff, war-like conditions in NHS etc. etc.?!? So, we have a variant which is way more infectious than Delta, it's spreading like wildfire and some scientists, not to mention their supporters, are willing to do nothing or very, very little and sacrifice a lot of people because the levels of mortality are too low for their liking?!? I don't know about you but I 'measure' countries by how they treat weak and vulnerable, not by GDP and how many billionaires they have, how little taxes they pay and if their young, strong and beautiful are absolutely unrestricted in anything they wanna do, regardless of anything and anybody else. I never understood "Libertarians" and their Chimera of "absolute freedom"... As if they never heard of empathy, solidarity and ultimately the rule of law, based in some elementary values of Enlightenment we deem necessary for a civilised society to be possible! What on Earth are they actually "offering", which alternative is "workable" in this sense, according to them?!? Anybody?!? All I see is irrationality and a power-driven discourse behind all that drivel of "Oh, it's not actually pandemic, don't you know - there aren't enough dead people from the C-19 for us to be bothered..."
What a f enormous lie. Since you're a toddler and someone asks you to share your lollipop, what is your first reaction? NOOOOOOO! Primeval instinct or sense of PROPERTY! AGAIN What a major in all human history BS.
I think nobody, not even politicians do sacrifice people's life with intent. It's always a question about to spot faults. And those are different depending on each nation's measures. Here they ruined the health system by reducing capacities even during pandemic. Lots of hospital beds and personal are gone due to bad salary and work conditions. We have lost 4,000 ICU beds since beginning of the year! https://www.aerzteblatt.de/nachrich...-000-Intensivbetten-weniger-seit-Jahresbeginn (sorry only German language) It was obvious that at upcoming fall a new wave would occur. Nothing 'unexpected'. And 4,000 ICU beds less and voting about vaccine mandates which are in conflict of constitution? I mean what is the real cause of issues so we have to restrict now constitutional laws?!?! Me2. But tell me : Mass vaccinations / compulsory vaccinations without an open debate allowed? We all know vaccines are for self protection at first place since they reduce the risk of getting severe and we know today who is vulnerable to COVID. Educate the vulnerable people and make them clear how serious COVID would be for them so they voluntarily take the vaccines. And of course all other people who want to get vaccines should get them. And generally: Trust the 'laws' of epidemiology and no apocalyptic forecasts without supporting data. Sometimes the 'experts' would do it better to shut up and wait for data. UK is 50% Omicron now with MILD symptoms.....I expect the fatalities will be decoupled there, too. At least is is most reasonable to think so. It would be conform to epidemiology and the data of SA. An apocalyptic forecast is not.
hm. if you want your postman to function well in his profession. you will have to pay him a decent salary first. you will get analfabetics, otherwise. same with nursing too... and compulsory vaccination??brrr.not the way we ought to treat people. my dog got vaccinated against rabies.and he did not have a say in the matter. covid is not rabies, as our beloved govt`s want us to believe.. it merely makes the stockmarkets sink.and hinders useless air traffic. [ very green actually.]
@Yen, she was in the news on CH4 yesterday and she did say that it is not a straight-forward, comparable situation, since SA has a much younger population etc. Yes, she said that the numbers of complications, heavier forms of disease and death-rate is smaller but that the numbers of infections will shoot up, as it is much more infectious - and that alone might mean NHS overwhelmed! Even your host doc says that the PM is right to err on the side of caution, something I do not see in your reasoning... All the same, you evaded the question and gave the game away, as it were: your understanding of "acceptable risk"/statistics would drive your decisions, based in "science". But we can see it would not be just science but we can see your "(reasonable) expectations" in there i.e. prejudices and they are not just "scientific", I suspect... In other words, you do not understand that politics has to - and it did and it does debate openly, at least in open societies! - various interests, not just pure statistics! 1) Health of the nation! 2) NHS capacity! 3) NHS workforce capacity! 4) Economy! 5) General political implications! 6) Legal implications! 7) Internal party politics! 8) ...and so on... Now, this is reality that politicians have to deal with, as opposed to a scientist and this is why scientists don't get to make the decisions, despite their scientific and/or medical qualifications! Just as businessmen can't make decisions for the whole of economy or finance/treasury etc. etc. Good politicians would consider all this carefully and their world-view would inform their decisions, of course. But then again, so would scientists, even if they don't want to admit it/are not aware of it! Be that as it may: there are bad and good scientists and good and bad politicians... Time will tell who did the right thing and who erred...
Btw, what I already mentioned: "The head of the UK Health Security Agency says the doubling time of the variant is now under two days in most of the UK." In a bus, on a plane, in any enclosed space, a single person with Omicron will infect many more people than Delta! Those numbers are coming! And then we'll see what it actually does to the local population... We know already that it can kill...
The same applies to kids. They have to trust what parents decide. Well rabies is a real serious virus. I also thought to get a vaccine, because when traveling through S/E Asia there are lots of wild dogs having it. The vaccine has a real approval and is tested the common way. And it is a real vaccine, no experimental genetic blueprint. Yes sure. Driving can kill also and we still do it. Omicron would not mean nobody dies from it. And the 'first case' is worth a headline even though nothing is known about comorbidites etc etc...still indicating the paranoid mind conditions... I think both can go together. I agree with the 'host' doc Campbell since he referred to PM Boris Johnson saying that...Johnson did not fear-monger, he just wanted to be cautious and prepared since Omicron is very very transmissible.
Driving drunk can kill in particular, with much greater probability!!! Hence it is banned! If they do it, we take away their licences and put them in jail. In this sense, should we actively campaign against such people ending in jail, just because the sober people also kill on occasion, so why put the drunk-drivers in jail at all?!? We might as well encourage everybody to drink-drive, since there are way too many of us on Earth, right? I can see quite a few miserable sods who hate life as such and everybody around them, in that camp, ergo hell yeah, bring on the bottles, yeee-haaa, let's go for a wiiiiild riiiiide!!!!!!
There's corruption in mainstream media colluded with gov officials, medical institutions and WHO. They are altering figures and statistics. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE WHOLE WORLD. People reading this, look for other sources like Telegram.
An analysis of COVID-19 spread based on fractal interpolation and fractal dimension https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7332948/ Some fractal thoughts about the COVID-19 infection outbreak https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590054420300130
3. Herd behaviour and fractals I like the comparison of incidence counts! Everyone wonders where they get the numbers from. A town of 30,000 inhabitants according to Wikipedia? Kovd19 has an incidence of 20,000 inhabitants. The residents themselves began to complain, where did 20 thousand come from? If in reality there are 500 people living in the settlement, and the remaining residents left for the big cities even 15 years ago! But according to the statistics of Covid19 more than 20 thousand people are sick.
More and more granny-to-granny "I know of somebody..." and allegedly "anybody can check this out"... Yeah, sure, keep firing away...