Reuters: Acute phase of pandemic could end in 2022-WHO. https://www.reuters.com/business/he...phase-pandemic-could-end-2022-who-2021-12-29/
Yet another genius doctor and scientist, all in one, with several Nobel prizes to his name... "The only people that died were those who were already on their way and their deaths were classified are corona deaths." How many would you have sacrificed so you do not have to change anything? "Do no harm" rings a bell?!? How many doctors and nurses would you have sacrificed? Any idea how many died? And you feel and think nothing of it?!? How many more nurses and doctors leaving the NHS is enough by your measures?!? We are already seriously understaffed... Have you done autopsies and did proper research? Or is your "artistic impression" more profound than the entire medical and scientific body of Earth? Btw, you are lying to yourself and you are trying to lie to us when you conveniently forget the 8+ billion vaccine doses given to more than 3.5 billion people and how much of an impact that had on hospitalisations and people dying! Some fine thinking this is... FFS, the audacity of it all...
@gorski "Yet another genius doctor and scientist, all in one, with several Nobel prizes to his name..." You mean me ? What kind of discussion is that ?! I can't believe you relegate your health to completely politicized health committees in bed with politicians, it's not like there is no censorship of high level scientists or anything right ? And their track record is perfect! Right... Did you even see the links to the videos I posted above ? The first video was reposted on Twiter by the scientist who is considered the inventor of the mRNA technology and it resulted him being banned from Twitter!! ""The only people that died were those who were already on their way and their deaths were classified are corona deaths." How many would you have sacrificed so you do not have to change anything? "Do no harm" rings a bell?!?" You seem to imply that criticizing and analyzing the measures that are being taken equates to wanting people dead, can you explain how you reach that conclusion ? I mean surely people are protesting because they care and don't want harm, they just have a different point of view from yours.. "How many doctors and nurses would you have sacrificed? Any idea how many died? And you feel and think nothing of it?!?"" That's easy, given how the statistics count every death with the virus as a death from the virus, if there were any doctors / nurses dead I'm sure you'd be hearing about them all over the TV every day. Do you not know by now that the statistics are mostly using PCR tests with 45 cycles ? Those mean nothing. "Have you done autopsies and did proper research? Or is your "artistic impression" more profound than the entire medical and scientific body of Earth?" The entire scientific body of Earth ?! Are you serious ? There are many top level scientists against this, they are being censored and their profession is being threatened. Again you seem to have seen only information on one side of the argument. Check the two links I posted above, and regarding scientists you can for example search for "The Great Barrington Declaration". Take notice that most health professionals are scarred of losing their profession if they speak. Regarding my "artistic impression" I was talking about the experience on my small Village of about 5000 people, I think it's valid. If this was a serious pandemic you would see dead people all around, that's not our experience. By the way, the definition of pandemic itself was changed by the WHO a couple of years ago to include what they might merely consider as threats, you might want to check that. And the WHO itself today doesn't have their own scientists anymore, that was changed. Today they rely on scientists from big pharma companies. You don't think Pharmaceutical companies have any conflict of interest here do you ?! I mean they've only already paid what, 13 billion for crimes like bribing and coercion, hiding test results. Pfizer alone had to pay more than 2 billion. And these are the things they were caught about... If you want to trust your health to big pharma crimnals that's your choice, just don't force it on the rest of the world! "Btw, you are lying to yourself and you are trying to lie to us when you conveniently forget the 8+ billion vaccine doses given to more than 3.5 billion people and how much of an impact that had on hospitalisations and people dying! Some fine thinking this is..." "FFS, the audacity of it all..." Yeah, can you believe it ? Try to focus more on facts instead of emotions, noone wants people to die that's ridiculous... Can I ask you to see the two videos I posted above, or it's too much for you ?
Perhaps YOU should focus a LOT more, esp. on FACTS!!! You mean, you are TOTALLY UNIFORMED as to how many doctors and nurses alone have died, esp. given the lack of PPE, of which there were plenty of "stories" even in MSM, dead of C-19 AND you DON'T CARE!!!??? Swell!!! That's me done talking to you....
First official paper about wave comparison of different waves in SA "Characteristics and Outcomes of Hospitalized Patients in South Africa During the COVID-19 Omicron Wave Compared With Previous Waves" https://jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...le_alert-jama&utm_content=olf&utm_term=123021 Compare yourself. Only 2 remarks from myself: Omicron is mildest wave AND what's impressive is that the vaccines do not protect from getting admitted to hospital. From the paper table 1: Admitted to hospital: 24.2% vaccinated, 66.4% unvaccinated, 9.4% unknown. Overall Vaccination status in SA: 26% ONLY So 26% and 24.2% is almost the same. This means the ratio vaxxed/unvaxxed of SA population and people being admitted to hospital has actually not changed = no protection from the vaccines against Omicron. Logic: When a population has a vaccination rate of 26% it means 74% are unvaccinated, 26% are vaccinated, right? So if you now find the SAME ratio within those people who have been admitted to hospital the vaccines do NOT have any protection since it represents the overall ratio out there. The difference is only 1.8% This is not significant. A significant result would be 90% unvaxxed / 10% vaxxed being admitted for instance. What people do NOT consider IS the ratio of the population and a comparison to the ratio in hospital. IF it does not change = there is no effect of the vaccine. One counterargument: It could be that it protected some individuals, though. We do not know if the average age of people being admitted to hospital is the same as the average age of the population. For instance if people's average age in hospital is higher AND the higher age group has a higher vaccination rate THEN there is some protection .....
There are other important factors, like keeping physical distance, masks, hygiene and so on. Many have lost their fear with vaccinations... Moreover, how long ago have they been vaccinated? Plus, not all vaccinations act in the same manner... Other conditions present? Plenty of variables... Like season: SA now lives outdoors, mostly, as opposed to Northern Europe. Etc. etc. etc. "There's lies, damn lies and then there's - statistics..."
Btw, here's a bit of sobering data... https://khn.org/news/article/us-health-workers-deaths-covid-lost-on-the-frontline/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7598357/ https://www.bmj.com/covid-memorial None of it matters, eh?!?
If stupid zombified illness-workers still doing same stupid WHO's protocols, their gonna keep killing themselves and innocent people. Yeah right
Oh, yes, they madly need uneducated morons telling them what's what in their profession... Sure, the doctors in those hospitals have no idea what's going on, yes - you will tell them what's going on in their institutions, in their profession, a-haaaa... Go get a good shrink, you narcissistic tw@t!!!
Real honest doctors, actually saving people, have pointed at stupid zombified illness-workers, for using wrong protocols wrong medicines. I notice Anger on this reply Otoh you really need me washing your mouth with dishwasher detergent. Dirty mouth you've got Insolent.
Yes, you are insolent, given your ignorance... My "education" actually served rather well when I turned a few kids round, from bad/poor to excellent and enhanced their chances in life, tw@t!!!
This is about you and your ilk!!! And such approximation of "knowledge" is indeed of NO service to anyone, Zweistein!!!
Well, since more data about Omicron has been published there it seems to be consensus that the effectiveness against Omicron is drastically reduced having two jabs and 'partially' restored having the booster. This is the most exhaustive paper I have found so far: Contributors are: 1. MRC-University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research, UK, G61 1QH. 2. School of Mathematics, & Statistics, University of Glasgow, UK 3. NHS Greater Glasgow & Clyde, Glasgow, UK 4. MRC Biostatistics Unit, University of Cambridge 5. Public Health Scotland 6. School of Medicine, University of St Andrews 7. NHS Lothian 8. London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, London, UK https://www.gla.ac.uk/media/Media_829360_smxx.pdf You might want to read the sub: "Vaccine effectiveness against infection with the Omicron variant is reduced compared to Delta" (Full vaccination means there: 14 days after 2nd jab) Effectiveness: AZ: Omicron: negative (NEGATIVE not even zero), Delta: 16% Pfizer: Omicron: 6.84%, Delta: 56.53% Moderna: Omicron: 8.83%, Delta: 60.07% Booster: Pfizer: Omicron from 6.84% to 67.57% Moderna: Omicron from 8.83% to 71.15% This paper really contains a lot of scientific data. I am still getting through it. For instance sub "Omicron spike has switched entry route preference" Omicron is actually a new phenotype. It has a new mechanism to enter a cell and it has a new set of symptoms. It does not necessarily use TMPRSS2 to cleave off the S1 from the S2 subunit in order to perform cell surface fusion, it rather undergoes endocytosis and makes use of cathepsins to perform endosomal fusion. All them use still ACE2 to connect a cell, first. By that it has become more like HCoV using endosomal fusion. TMPRSS2 expressing cells are more likely deep down the lung (epithelial cells). Since Omicron has now the capacity to infect via 2nd route (endosomal fusion) it infects upper respiratory tract vastly and mostly alone. And by that there is reduced syncytia. Syncytia is a process where (here lung epithelial cells) the virus (delta) causes a fusion of those cells to bunches of them (syncytia formation). That causes immune cells like macrophages to become mad there (lung issues). Omicron mostly does not do that since it mostly uses its own way (endosomal fusion) which is TMPRSS2 independent. Delta uses cell surface fusion, triggered by TMPRSS2 which can come along with syncytia. For all those interested in virology of Omicron this paper is great.
Yes and that puts us right back where it all started, given the crazy overall numbers and through it a huge problem in hospitals... With that cometh the economy troubles, given how many people are absent from work... https://www.theguardian.com/world/coronavirus-outbreak For instance: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-59871952 https://www.bbc.com/news/coronavirus And so on... MEASURES!!!
Firstpost: France detects new COVID-19 variant IHU, more infectious than Omicron: All we know about it. https://www.firstpost.com/health/fr...an-omicron-all-we-know-about-it-10256521.html