No, Delta is by far not done and it keeps killing... WHO is warning that it is too early to deem Omicron "mild"... We do not know enough yet...
"A QAnon and anti-vaccine podcaster has died from complications due to COVID-19 after contracting the virus at a conspiracy theory conference that turned into a superspreader event, and where fellow attendees baselessly blamed their illness on an anthrax attack. Doug Kuzma, 61, from Newport News, Virginia, died on January 3 after being hospitalized 10 days earlier. Kuzma broadcasted on the FROG News podcasting network, which stands for “Fully Rely On God.” Kuzma and his FROG fellow hosts pushed an array of conspiracy theories ranging from QAnon to COVID denial and election fraud lies." https://www.vice.com/en/article/akv...1WNKpypUnbmQOGLNqNlFhWVcCefYxHiOozCJC75s81k38
Yeah and all the thousands of deaths in news you've brought endlessly were covidiots, stupid believers of this charade. Just like you. Most Latino dissidents I'm with are alive and wailing. I'm awaiting patiently for your moment...
Sociopath. Because you want to see somebody suffer and die! IPX was right about you and your post - which provoked his - still stands, while his was removed! Look above for your "truth" - that's your lot. FACT! Deny that! Well bloody done...
There was a Freedom of Information lawsuit against Pfizer recently to mandate that they release all data leading up to the development of their Covid-19 Vaccine. Pfizer said they would release 500 pages a month and due to the amount of data that equated to 75 years before all the data leading up to Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine release. Well a judge would have none of that nonsense, and ordered Pfizer to release 50,000 pages a month. Even at that it will take 8 months for all the data to be released. https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/judge-rejects-fdas-75-year-delay-vax-data-cuts-8-months So there are 400,000 pages of documents that Pfizer had to produce, 400,000 pages of documents that the FDA had to read before they could authorize the Emergency Use of Pfizer's vaccine. And all that happened in a a matter of a few months. And I'm sure the FDA was very thorough in it's review of those 400,000 pages. /s .
This video should be watched by all those who have got the jab from Pfizer. It's a review of the study that led to EUA. Made by the Canadian COVID Care Alliance based on official study data. The Alliance consists of more than 500 independent Canadian doctors, scientists and health care practitioners. It has more than 1 Million clicks. https://rumble.com/embed/voaxg5/?pub=4
And here's a PDF transcript of the video. https://covid19alternativeperspecti...ons_more_harm_than_good_rev_dec_16_2021-1.pdf .
Yen, you previously criticised "partiality"... So, how about this: https://ph.news.yahoo.com/video-repeats-false-claims-safety-030833727.html https://www.politifact.com/factchec...of-researcher-claim-covid-19-vaccines-spike-/ Experts say there is no evidence that the vaccines produce a toxin that could cause heart problems and neurological damage, as Canadian viral immunologist Byram Bridle maintained. Bridle has not produced evidence to prove his claim, which has been widely shared on social media. See the sources for this fact-check https://factcheck.afp.com/canadian-doctors-make-inaccurate-covid-19-claims-video A video titled “Canadian Doctors Speak Out,” which claims to offer the top reasons not to fear Covid-19, has been shared thousands of times on social media. But public health experts said it includes misleading claims about variants of the disease and immunity, and recommends treatments that have not been proven effective against the virus. The nearly 12-minute video, which has circulated since March 8, 2021, features commentary from doctors in British Columbia and Ontario. They are licensed medical professionals but not coronavirus specialists, and claim to offer Canadians tips on how to protect their health “that do not include getting a shot with a vaccine.” So, experts here and experts there - whose statement is more truthful?!?
@gorski Oh come on, just check the information on both sides and make up your mind! It's pretty easy to see who's lying, the survival rate is higher than 99.9% for f*ck sake! Unless you have serious comorbidities, you're more likely to drown by accident! Did you knew that the average covid death has 4 comorbidities at the same time ? I'm not gonna go on.... And this is not even counting the inflated PCR tests and death statistics. You do know that according to the rules everyone that dies with Covid is counted as a deth from Covid, even if it's not the real cause of death ? This is real, just check it by yourself, they're not denying this! This is all planned, the big money guys spent all your pensions and funds and now need an excuse for the economic collapse that follows. The great reset planned by the world economic forum is not a conspiracy theory, the whole things been planned folks, by billionaires and politicians. They even put videos online about it. Your politicians go there! ... And before the reset on their totalitarian terms they get to use the money they're printing to buy everything, before you get to use it (when it's already devaluated and you worked like a slave) ... Your sources are not very good by the way. You do know that big media is owned at the top by the same financial groups as big pharma right ?
The 12 minute video you referred to is another one. There is no recommendation of other treatments! Either way.... The video I have posted refers to Pfizers own RCT data. So first of all we don't have to question from where they have got the data. "Experts"....Do you have to be a "coronavirus specialist" to go through the study as they did? Actually not. But the alliance also consists of people who are actively dealing with own experiences they get from the inoculations...and their professions are related, they are not outside of the subject's area. It actually does NOT matter what drug / vaccine is in the trial to point out flaws of study design (powers, endpoints, etc etc) and to put results together as they did. You have to have professional knowledge and own experience how to asses RCTs. In that case it would be beneficial to be involved in some clinical trials or at least have accompanied such. (To get practical experiences). If you do now a real 'fact check' one would have to go through each claims they made in the video and to disqualify them. Nothing of that ever happened. A 'fact check' works mostly like that: An original claim is twisted with intent, or being put outside of context, and then disproved. There is never an effort to go to each claim one by one sticking to original contexts. And those fact checkers are mostly much more non-experts, most of them 'journalists' only with absolute no idea of the subject itself they do fact-check. You should be aware that ATM anything works like: If there are publications which might cause vaccine hesitancy they get deleted! If you are OK with that....then you have nothing to read here. If you watch the video I have posted you'll see that most of the points they do address are already addressed by myself here somewhere. I am also no 'coronavirus specialist' BTW there is no such study one could have 'passed'....but I know enough about preclinical research, I am working there. And I know enough about the virus itself. My point is clear. I have valid reasons to reject the vaccines. The video I have posted summarizes all the points all based on original Pfizer data. The sources are in their PDF. It's well made and solid. Absolutely no point of complaint. The public health authorities and politics are compulsively sticking to the vaccines by ignoring ANY negative arguments, factual data and manipulations unveiled at the Pfizer trial and published in the BMJ. The FDA did not respond until today to the allegations made there against the partner Ventavia. https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635 You had issues with Grünenthal / Contergan / Thalidomode? This is by far more a scandal!
@Dave_Ru I realize you haven't read pages back in this thread. All you said I've said before and gorski has the opposite posture. He already knows everything you say and more. It's more than obvious the 'pink leftist progressivist schoolgirl' has it's own personal agenda. What's such agenda? To promote that everybody should blindly believe and not question public health authorities. gorski is trying by all means to indoctrinate MDL viewers to have absolute confidence and obedience in the government. The globalists and their servants (politicians) want to disappear western style societies to create a world government, and to achieve that, they need people's obedience. gorski and globalists want you and me and everyone to be dependent from a world government to feed us and tell us what to do and what to think. Something akin to the Chinese model.
@Yen, "twisted by intent"?!? Wait, wait, this is like saying "You want to poison me with vaccines"... Jesus Marx wept. Make your mind up already....
No @gorski I don't use English language such like: twisted with/by intent = turned into the very opposite. I would have said they turn claims into the very opposite and then disprove them. I give you 2 examples: (fictional examples, though, but same way as I have seen already many times) 1 Claim: The spike protein is toxic. And a study is named where it showed toxic behaviour, it formed blood clots by fusing platelets together (antibody/platelets complex found). Fact check: This is wrong. The spike protein is not toxic, there is no study where it kill cells. 2 Claim: The vaccines do not protect from getting hospitalized. In hospital are 65% un-vaccinated, 35% vaccinated. This represents the same ratio for the same age group outside of the hospital, therefore no effect. All data are posted as a source. Admitted to hospital people 35-70 years, 65% unvaxxed, 35% vaxxed. Population of the nation all people 35-70 years, 65% un-vaxxed, 35% vaxxed. Fact check: This is wrong. Vaccines do protect from getting to hospital, the majority in hospital we checked that by ourself are the unvaccinated people. A good fact check comes with efforts. I do no fact check, but when going to scientific works of others (I do that quite frequently at my job) I check each part if it is comprehensible and based on real relations.... You recognize a good fact check when it's put apart thoroughly. Claim, study which is supporting the claim, alternative conclusions, logic..... Really many of those are a joke. Most checkers do not even make the efforts to relate to the original details (they relate already to an own pre-interpretation of those details) and it seems it has become popular to fact check everybody who could cause vaccine hesitancy. They should fact check IF Pfizer has manipulated their study. I bet there are still traces somewhere in the data sets...
@Mr.X I did read a few older posts on the thread but not enough I guess... I guess the question now is, how much of the general public is having the same attitude ? Are they really seeing both sides of the information ? In the USA there is a big amount of alternative media, but sadly most of the western world still relies on big tv and news companies (even in there too). Some of the top scientists that have spoken out had no other way other than to talk to the alternative media.The fact that some people refuse to see it when presented the information is a big black pill for me but at the same time in some twisted way, the fact that most people are simply misinformed still gives me some hope...
You know, if only those poor sods in their millions around the world would find the balls to attack the real issues here - fine... It says "Dictatorship (especially at work, in the West), Corruption (esp. in the East), Unemployment (everywhere now...) - bah, meh, whatever, dude... But "Masks!!!!!", ach, vaccines generally, as in "making sure we respect the measures in order to protect not only our own health but also others from ourselves".... OH, NOOOO!!!! RISE UP, TO ARMS!!!!" Jesus Marx wept!!! In hospitals it's a madhouse and yet - who cares, because most of those antivaxxers do not work in hospitals (which is why they are antivaxxers...)... Otherwise they would have known of this... Even Fox "news" had to capitulate in front of the overwhelming numbers, which can not lie... But oh, no... It's so much better to have a few idiots doing this and following them blindly and without checking - "Ach, I heard that..." or "I know a guy..." "FACTS", yesss... Most of this "debate" has fcuk-all to do with facts, it's bloody tribal and the only thing I see is an effort to justify and "rationalise" one's prejudices!!!
As for the bit of partial statistics, Yen and your charge of "no one challenging your statements" - I did! And I stand by it and actually it was YOU who avoided dealing with my points, my critique of such a benevolent use of "statistics"!! You are picking and choosing whichever parts fit to the tired old populist narrative. That's all you did with the statistics you chose to point to - cherry-picking the bits that suit your "side". There is nothing to suggest that you even tried minimally to dig into the other side's "statistics" and then "see"... Moreover, all of you who are advocating we should not respect the measures, not get vaccinated, not do whatever we can to help out - here it is, once again: HOW MANY MORE LIVES DO YOU WANT TO SACRIFICE ON THE ALTAR OF YOUR DEMAGOGICAL, PREJUDICED LITTLE DOGMA, how many more people, doctors and nurses included, should die doing something that shouldn't be so bad by far?!? When we respected the measures - the numbers were down, significantly!!! I DARE ANYONE TO SAY THEY DIDN'T!!! And the less we are adhering to them - well, look around you, FFS!!! So, who's a selfish prick in all this, eh?!?
Compare... "As China pursues a “zero COVID strategy” that has kept its infection rate well below 1% of the population, the U.S. has embraced a strategy of mass infection and mass death – setting a grim global record of 1 million new cases in the U.S. in a single day. To distract from the U.S.’s criminal mishandling of COVID-19, the capitalist-controlled media demonizes China, using racist tropes to distort the reality that China’s policies successfully contained the virus, while the U.S. continued its naked pursuit of profits at the expense of millions of lives. With the rapid spread of omicron, the media has doubled down its efforts to vilify China on the world stage – yet the numbers speak for themselves."
And now @Yen comes here to refute with scientific and CORRECT arguments all the demagogy this moron spits all over the thread. This is getting boring. Yen why you always have to react to all of his bulls**t? Why?