Ermmm, that's a different timber now, Yen.... On the one hand, the whole point of GOOD science in regard of such phenomena is that these were always going to be relative statements and criticising them for being so simply does not hold water! The only ground for criticising them for being qualified - is unscientific! And on the other hand, as for what SOME journalists do - that's another matter and we agree there, of course. But this is a case of bad journalism of the "simple-mind interpretation" kind and the two should be mindfully pulled apart and signified as such... Not making a serious distinction could be seen as inflammatory! On the issue of not being ready to conduct proper studies, having an "intuitive" method of setting a dosage for various groups and so on - of course I agree there! But you know, you've come a long way from somebody who wouldn't empathise with Thalidomide victims, to this stance which is diametrically opposite to what you claimed back then. I welcome it. My worry is - would be able to revert to the old stance again, when it suited you...?
Btw, could you elaborate on this please: "Did you know that the original endpoint of Phase III studies has been canceled? There is no control group anymore!" And the decision making process always was and should be in politicians' hands. The problem is - is the process democratically validated, transparent, is there accountability, do these guys have legitimacy and their decisions appropriate legality?!? We doubt that very much and we must change the procedures and laws governing these issues, to be prepared for the next one... In this sorry episode private firms got contracts without any let alone a valid tender ("chumocracy"), no real scrutiny was present, many people, especially in the medical profession and frontline services have paid either with their lives or with their health (no PPE!!!) and that must not be acceptable to anyone!
Dr. Malone Responds to Project Veritas January 12, 2022 https://rumble.com/vsfalj-dr.-malon...tas-fauci-gain-of-function-bombshell-ful.html .
Scientists decode toxic and lethal lots of Covid vaccines https://rumble.com/vsfa0f-cientfico...xicos-y-letales-de-las-vacunas-del-covid.html
Fortune: Cannabis compounds stopped COVID virus from infecting human cells in lab study. https://fortune.com/2022/01/12/cannabis-compounds-stop-covid-virus-infecting-human-cells-lab-study/
It's not about reversion. No worries. The pandemic is a current event. I can be and I get informed every day. The Thalidomide story I only got via retrospective. AND the most important fact is: The Thalidomide scandal led to a total new idea of drug safety and pharmacovigilance. Many historical achievements are based on utter mistakes and then a learning process of humankind. The same applies to the NAZI doctors and the Nürnberg Code. So the only difference concerning my 'opinion' about Thalidomide / new vaccines is that I'd say science could not know about the potential danger of Thalidomide in advance considering the current methods of drug safety THAT time. But I also blame Grünenthal for capitalistic recklessness and I do have empathy for the victims, I know one personally... And it's again a German company involved, BioNTech. The study which is the very base of the Pfizer vaccine and by which it has got EUA in many countries is this one: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577 "Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine" I suppose you know what a RCT is so no further explanation. It is randomized, placebo controlled and triple-blinded. Each group was about 21,000 (control/Placebo and treatment group), we know that. You have to declare in advance which endpoints you have. So one point of the the study design originally has been to declare to END it on May 2023! At this date there is the option to un-blind and to offer the intervention for those people belonging to the placebo arm if they consent. It has started on July 2020. Until then they wanted to continue and collect data of BOTH groups (Control and treatment group). What they really did: On 31/12/2020 Pfizer released a 2 months data report. The trial is unblinded early!!!! The participants from the Placebo Group are given the opportunity to take the vaccine and by early 2021, the majority of them have crossed over to the vaccination group. Since then it’s no longer a randomized control trial, the control group is gone. Therefore you won't get any 'long term' safety data from a real RCT/real RCT conditions which is scientific evidence level I! To recognize issues you of course need to compare to control. The EUA of the Pfizer vaccine is based on 2 months of follow-up safety data ONLY!!!! THIS study was supposed to be FIRST to show up any 'long' term issues (exactly issues occurred from July 2020 till May 2023) since those participants were ahead of the masses and could deliver such at all. The pre-alarming system so to say is gone. Now the Israelis are the guinea pigs since those are which are ahead. But the conditions there are of course not those we have at a real RCT (no evidence level I) !!! And due to the high vaccination rate there there's actually no control group either.
Well, ethically in the pandemic context, it is seriously "difficult" to keep people "out" of the possible safety zone (unvaccinated), if they so choose... You must allow them the choice, hence the problems, I suppose... https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
Thanks for that, very interesting...BTW here's the link to the scientific paper: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jnatprod.1c00946 It covers exactly the work we did for COVID research....to check the behavior of extracts / fractions / compounds of plants on the virus / viral replication. This is exciting... Malone reminds me somehow of my old boss. I like and respect both. A very clear minded and well trained academic. Prudent and with the ability to reflect things from different perspectives. Would be a good workmate....
Did I mention that a number of experts were on radio talking about "not being sure Omicron is milder"? What constitutes "milder", they'd ask.? Is 10% milder, 15%? How much milder is really milder? EU agency: vaccines effective against Omicron By EUobserver https://euobserver.com/tickers/154059? Data suggests that vaccines remain effective against severe disease and hospitalisation caused by the Omicron variant, the European Medicine Agency (EMA) said on Tuesday. It adds that those with a booster dose are better protected. EMA also said hospitalisations linked to Omicron appeared to be lower than with previous variants, since "the risk is currently estimated to be between a third and half of the risk with the Delta variant". So, things are not yet clear-cut, it would seem... Too many people still getting hospitalised and dying - too many to call this a "victory" or that "the danger has passed"...
I did that job for you finding 2 current origins of data: The Netherlands, source of it: https://t.co/TJ6peBST2I PDF page 18 The coloured graphs are estimations (applying different models / scenarios) of numbers of occupied intensive care beds. The black one the real number. The black = real graph follows Omicron estimations which are conform to mine....it EVEN declines. Edit: Since the graph stops at mid of December recent number: 13/1/2022 358. It has even more declined! Source: Official LCPS data: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/intensive-care-opnames 2nd California data: Omicron: Delta: Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v1 Look at SA: Omicron wave is almost over, same data. So IF one still has a rational mind one has to recognize Omicron is mild per se. Only irrational minds still are fear driven unsure.
We have a baseline, I guess, before the Omicron wave... Bulgaria Apr 20th 2020-Dec 26th 2021 30,530 60,140 872 Russia Apr 1st 2020-Dec 31st 2021 302,650 1,082,710 742 Serbia Apr 1st 2020-Nov 30th 2021 11,680 48,710 709 North Macedonia Apr 1st 2020-Oct 31st 2021 7,120 13,740 660 Peru Mar 23rd 2020-Jan 2nd 2022 202,750 207,480 622 Lithuania May 25th 2020-Dec 19th 2021 7,070 16,550 615 Bosnia and Herzegovina Apr 1st 2020-Sep 30th 2021 10,590 16,800 515 Romania Mar 30th 2020-Oct 31st 2021 47,710 94,750 495 Mexico Mar 30th 2020-Nov 14th 2021 286,800 605,850 465 Kazakhstan Jun 1st 2020-Oct 31st 2021 17,040 79,070 416 Poland Mar 30th 2020-Dec 12th 2021 88,460 155,240 411 Latvia Oct 19th 2020-Dec 12th 2021 4,330 7,440 399 South Africa Apr 13th 2020-Jan 2nd 2022 91,200 239,060 398
3 tactics to overcome COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/06/3-tactics-to-overcome-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy/ f**kery Why the World Economic Forum wants so desperately to vaccinate the whole planet?
Mind to explain why you coloured SA red? Omicron infections were very high, but decoupled from COVID deaths. No peak there. https://www.samrc.ac.za/reports/report-weekly-deaths-south-africa
I have some confusion from this website https://covariants.org/. I thought that the covid "soup" in which we are swimming contains many ingredients old and new. I think I figured it out.... https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-189#post-1717073 Spoiler: My confusion Meaning there are percentages of all the different flavours of VOCs: Alpha, Beta, Delta, Omicron plus all sorts of random mutations that don't have a Greek letter. But from what I interpret from the website is the new VOC strains move into a population and "out-compete" or dominate the old VOCs. So many questions .... What happens to the old VOCs? Why do they die out? If your immune system has never had exposure to any of the prior batch of VOCs and you are exposed today, then all you are dealing with is Omicron? I hope this is a fresh question.... Reason for the confusion - I thought that the soup was more complex... https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v2 Vaccinated people incubate mutated variants Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization (78% versus 48%), but not by those associated with increased infectivity (85% versus 77%). So if a mutation is highly infectious, then being vaccinated/unvaccinated are both likely to get infected. viral loads the same Differences in viral loads were non-significant between unvaccinated and fully vaccinated persons overall (p = 0.99) and according to lineage. symptomatic vaccine breakthrough infections had similar viral loads to unvaccinated infections. No surprise Viral loads were significantly higher in symptomatic as compared to asymptomatic vaccine breakthrough casesvaccine breakthrough infections vaccine breakthrough infections were found to be associated with low or undetectable neutralizing antibody levels attributable to □ immunocompromised state or □ infection by an antibody-resistant lineage. Conclusion These findings suggest that vaccine breakthrough cases are preferentially caused by circulating antibody-resistant SARS-CoV-2 variants, and that symptomatic breakthrough infections may potentially transmit COVID-19 as efficiently as unvaccinated infections, regardless of the infecting lineage. Graph:
I said, Yen, we have a baseline (of sorts, of course - but you know what I mean - we'll see if it is "milder" and according to you it should be soon!)... SA started with Omicron awareness, so... Indeed, spanishfly, many experts I read and listened to warned that Delta is very much still about, hence the vaccinations are still very useful...
The website https://covariants.org/ shows that Delta is gone or going away. Maybe if you're in Central/Eastern Europe you might get some vaccine protection from Delta . . . for another few weeks. See: https://covariants.org/per-variant For most countries, Omicron is taking over all the others. That's what was confusing me, but I think I've worked it out now.... My working it out ... (possibly over-simplified) . . . A VOC is a designated mutation novel or semi-novel to the vaccinated/unvaccinated human immune system. As the vaccinated/unvaccinated human herd develops an effective immune response to the earlier VOCs they are slowly eliminated as a threat and die-out. If a new VOC isn't already in the pipeline then the human herd gets temporary "virus vacation". Since this is a spiked-protein virus, the gap between VOCs might be a year+ . . . if we're lucky. But we're not lucky since the human herd is huge! (in 2020: 7,794,798,739 humans). Once we know the Covid 19 VOC rate or vaccine breakthrough cases rate some statistician can work it out. Code: VOC rate (times) [7,794,798,739 total humans (minus) protected humans aka the 1% with the wealth (times) fudge factor] (equals) how long between wide-spread VOC mutations Right now, wide-spread VOC mutations are showing up a rapid rate (every 6 months?). This could be totally normal. Maybe this every six-month "VOC rate" is what the human herd needs to adapt to. But maybe the rapid rate is made worse by the fact that vaccinated people are variant incubation machines!! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v2 Maybe not. South Africa, said to be the Omicron VOC source, doesn't have a super-high vaccination rate. If science was actually being done right now, we could possibly figure it out.
Yen kept insisting - inspired by some other guys - that this isn't a pandemic, that the numbers are too low, much lower than flu etc. etc. So, if it isn't killing too many, there is - theoretically speaking - aplenty of subjects (Humans and animals) to infect and survive... Today I went shopping and even though masks, distancing etc. is mandatory - there were too many people who couldn't care less about the measures.... Our legal optimists thought, in their eternal "wisdom", if we bring about a law prohibiting various types of behaviour - that such a behaviour will vanish... There was a little flaw in such thinking: given low numbers of police about, who was to enforce it everywhere, in all aspects of life in public? Security staff in a supermarket are not paid to do that, they have no authority, there are very few of them and they are not trained, not equipped to do these things and to put themselves in harm's way... Who then? Members of the public? Ahem... And in that irrationality lies the basis for the variety of strains to co-exist, it seems to me...
I only see Yen's posts lamenting the lack of genuine science being done to actually know what is an effective treatment/vaccine and what are the most sensible social policies to put in place. Masks, especially amongst kids at schools, are said to be saturated in bacteria that is possibly doing more harm than good (no science to back that statement) Social distancing seems like a good idea, but what distance. In the USA/UK it's 2m (6ft) in Australia it's 1.5 meters. That makes a huge difference in the number of indoor seating tables for a someone running a restaurant. So what is it? 1m, 1.5m, 2m, 0.5m? With recent research showing that small droplets of respired Covid dies in seconds in open air, maybe social distancing itself is "feel-good" theatre with no actual real-world benefit (some science: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969721005933). Right now social policy could consider the science showing that vaccinated humans are incubating far more mutations than unvaccinated and are potentially the breeding ground for the next VOC. And that same study indicates that the vaccinated are harboring 8% more infectious variants than the unvaccinated (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/med.../F2.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1). (Which implies that to be safe you should be seeking the company of the unvaccinated!) Not the intended outcome of mass vaccinating into a spiked-protein flu/pandemic, but that's the trouble with science. It lays out the facts and dispels the magical thinking. (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v2) By the way, an update on my last post (https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-189#post-1717073) showing Germany at 0.77 Delta. That's now old news! Delta is done. Omicron is now the dominant variant in Germany: according to its Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases--in its weekly report, released on Thursday--it said Omicron accounted for 73.3% of cases compared with 44.3% seven days ago. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
Louis Pasteur's virus theory is untenable! In Germany, Professor Stefan Lankey proved in court that there are no viruses in the world Show me a virus? Here's a Virus - but when you look at it, you can see that it's a cesosome, but where is the virus? Viruses have never been isolated as a pure culture. This is all a lie that stretches back to the time of Louis Pasteur! Vaccines are poison! Killing people. Urteil des 12. Zivilsenats vom 16.2.2016 - 12 U 63/15 - (juris.de) Wissenschaft - Heidelberg - Chef-Pathologe pocht auf mehr Obduktionen von Geimpften - Wissen - SZ.de (sueddeutsche.de) Вакцины от COVID являются самыми опасными вакцинами в истории человечества... Вряд ли (substack.com) Письмо Штефана Ланка министру здравоохранения Германии (gnm-practice.ru)