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The first one (lab leak) is still a hypothesis. Ayway those sequences are not naturally obtained by mutation and there is proprietary code in the furin cleavage site found.

Anything else is true.
The mRNA of the Pfizer vaccine does transcribe into DNA (at human liver cells).
The vaccines are not as safe as they would have been tested as usual 6-10 years. (More side effects reported as any vaccines altogether since they exist)
The vaccines are not sterilizing. One still can get covid and one still can infect others.

As being said the point is that they made those claims without to know.
And a violated scientific principle. New stuff has to be considered as being harmful per se and it has to be proven by experiment it is not.

 

I got all that from scientific papers, why should I publish? It's all available.
There is still resistance to open scientific dialogue.

For instance Rossana Segreto, early author of scientific findings that supports a lab leak.

https://www.news.at/a/corona-laborunfall-these-12162919
"Deine Arbeit riskiert unseren Ruf" = "Your work is hazardous to our reputation"

And so on.
No, I always remained being critical to mainstream and I am used to get a broad spectrum of scientific works.
It's not my job to get back the turncoats of proper science. They suck either way.

And concerning vaccines Pfizer has been criminal in the past already.

 

You never won't get the Chinese saying it was a lab leak. Nor the US govt. / DARPA / NIH and Fauci would admit an US cooperation at gain of function.

This is not the job of science anymore.
There IS already evidence it's from a lab. 3 fundamental works. All posted here.
Rossana Segreto:"»Die Chance, dass Sars-CoV-2 aus dem Labor stammt, ist meiner Meinung nach 99 zu eins«" =" The chance that SARS-COV-2 originates from a lab is IMO 99 to 1" I agree with that.

But also she said: "It actually doesn't play a role. But we should be clever enough to go after all probabilities. By doing that we enhance the chance to understand this pandemic and even prevent a future pandemic. We owe that to our kids!"

Totally agree.

BTW :We are only publishing own scientific work.
No assessments of other's work.

I do not post it at the public for privacy reasons (contains real name), but I offered already if interested (PM)..we did one work that is COVID research related.

 

Let me illustrate why I am so upset and shocked about that seemingly nobody cares about those lab leak evidences!

The actual problem is that humans are doing gain of function research at viruses at all!!!
I mean what kind of scientists are those? Trying to find viruses in animals and manipulate them, so they can jump to humans.
And by doing that they also add potential harmful attributes. As a means for wars?
It's quite clear that a virus that naturally lives in animals and then can jump to humans the first time (as a gained function) is a 'challenge' since human body and the immune system is naive to that virus.

If you have read the study (published in the Frontiers in Virology Journal) the probability that the proprietary sequence that is found in the SARS-COV-2 virus (its genome is ~30,000 nucleotides) can occur randomly is 3.21 ×10^−11 (figure2).

And if you have read the study where they got evidence that the Pfizer mRNA reverse transcribes in human liver cell's into DNA you see there a reference to a study where they also showed that the virus itself SARS-COV-2 can do that, too.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33958444/

It's actually nothing special at first place that a viral genome can be integrated into human genome, Epstein-Barr virus can, but it's a DNA virus. I have it in my genome for sure. I had Epstein-Barr already and it's a potential for carcinogenicity some scientists think.

But what if it is a 'gained' function?

The furin cleavage site and the proprietary code found in the virus is located at the S protein! It's there that the virus can cleave off the S1 from the S2 subunit in order to perform a cell surface fusion.

And now the boldest thing. The mRNA vaccines are coding EVEN for the whole S protein!

In other words: Everybody who got the vaccine translates THAT (furin cleavage site) proprietary code with it!
Why? Because it is the same spike. If the virus is from a lab and has been manipulated there, then the S protein made by the vaccine conforms to that from the lab, too!

We have clear "Indizien" it's from a lab dunno if the correct translation is "circumstantial evidence" and yes no proof.
But 3.21 ×10^−11 that it's random alone is "circumstantial evidence" enough to go after it.

I absolutely cannot understand why nobody seems to care.
Are you people out there aware of that?
When being naturally infected and the virus but also the vaccine can reverse transcribe into DNA in the (liver) cells and by that a manipulated sequence I WANT to know what I have probably now in my body and why!!!!
Will this DNA be integrated into human genome and if yes what does happen with the cell?

And the proprietary code codes for MSH3. And according to the study overexpression of MSH3 is known to interfere with mismatch repair..(carcinogenicity???)

Well, we have enough problems ATM with Putin.
Another psychopath
Scientists who are doing gain of function research at those viruses are just a little brother of his mind-set, though.

 

I am not very happy ATM. When watching the news I could cry. A Russian attack on a NPP?!?
COVID seems to settle and now the war.
Germany delivered weapons to Ukraine. To deliver weapons to a nation which is at war is totally wrong. This is escalating only.

As being said we have other problems now.

Anyway, even if one says. Nah, this lab leak hypotheses is BS. The chronology of the pandemic as 'we' seem to know is not right.

"Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy "
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33176598/

They found antibodies against SARS-COV-2 in Italian blood samples on September already.
The Wuhan Institute of Virology (analysing of some mobile data) has been temporarily closed and fenced off on the first half of October. (Hamburg University study)

Either way the outbreak of SARS-COV-2 started already before. This fact alone should cause further investigations.
'US Putins' Well, DARPA and the NIH were involved at the gain of function project in Wuhan. Fauci knows that. It would explain why the US govt. is actually not much interested in further investigations.

But what's very first every time is a human mid-set that creates those sick ideas and behaviours.
From that perspective we (humankind) don't seem to be much 'evolved'.
Sad.