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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    You being poorly informed about the issues make it easy. Plus, your attitude on this issue is laughable, indeed. To me, all Humans are just that - Humans! And I treat them equally! Naturally, I expect to be treated the same... MLK put it the right way for me - it's about character and in this case "knowing about the issues"...

    So, I couldn't care less about the colour of your skin. I care about rational arguments. If none, or if your "arguments" are badly constructed and ill-informed, I'll tell you or anyone else about racism (or anything else, for that matter), any day, all day long, provided I know better about a subject... All else is just complexes.. Pretty unbecoming to see, too...
     
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  2. Garp _McGarpington

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    I haven't any power. I can't censor people's speech (like you do), arrest doctors, imprison dissidents, or release deadly biological weapons against the world. I don't operate mobile execution vans, harvest the organs of prisoners, and haven't declared Islam to be a mental illness. You should address your concerned about pure evil with the government that manifests it, and not waste time arguing with anonymous strangers that merely describe it.
     
  3. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Which gov stated that Islam is mental illness? Precisely!?!
     
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  4. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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    K..;) Dat makes perfect cents dat a white intellectual dat reads about racism is more informed on de subject dan a black man dat lives through it o_O
     
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  5. case-sensitive

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    A german news report interviewed the leading doctors in a german hospital and they said ....... The average age of the people that have died there is 80 and all of them had at least one other illness and some more .

    = The ones that died were allready ill , they were over the normal lfe expectancy and our society has about 2 / 5 old people so the death rate looks worse .

    To put it in perspective ---- >

    How many kids have died in africa from malaria , other curable illnesses and hunger in the same time ?

    How many people are murdered every day ?

    How many people die in wars every day ?


    Whats the difference ? ...... That its us thats dieing now ? ...... and we like us :)
     
  6. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    @Bat.1: I was waiting for you to stomp all over him. :D
    Pure ellegance :thumbsup:

    I'm a "pinkskin" so I can't possibly know. However, I can have empathy and respect the experiences of others.
     
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  7. Bat.1

    Bat.1 MDL Expert

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    Heard on de local News this morning to date 28 people had died of de Kung Flu in St. Landry Parish. (Where I live) 25 of dem were Nursing Home residents.
    Last Week dey announced dat 20 Workers at Opelousas General Hospital had tested positive, were treated and had gone back to work.
    It really affects de elderly more in my area.
    Maybe Bat should start being more careful :fear:
     
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  8. Bat.1

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    Thanks MJ. I just had to let him lead himself into dat trap :)
    Really should have said I'm multi-racial. Mixture of French, Native Merican and SSA so I slip between the Creole and Cajun Cultures with no problem ;)
    I see the problems from ALL sides :(
     
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  9. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    I wonder...If we had enough wisdom to see each other for our hearts instead of our toys and how we look
    if that would change the world enough to make it tolerable?

    We may never know. Yet, every time I run into a good soul, it gives me a little more hope.

    Hope springs eternal... :)
     
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  10. Mr.X

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    Now I wonder who's @Bat.1 in the mixture:
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  11. case-sensitive

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    >That type of utopian society which you want does not and can not exist in reality.

    Facts please . The word utopia has two definitions ....... ' The best of all worlds ' ....... and ...... ' An unreachable fantasy ' . The ' unreachable fantasy ' definition is used by people in power to discredit and destroy any hope of improvement or change for the people .......... As perfection doesnt exist we can never reach ' The best of all worlds ' ......... so it cant mean that :) ........ and it doesnt anyway ......... utopia is the search for improvement and tweaking society / ' The world ' .

    Wich has a word in biology = Evolution . Shouldnt we evolve ? Try to make things better ? Is it bad ? For who ?

    >First thing to do in order to "fix this", is get the Chinese Government to tell the truth

    Whos truth ? How ? Whip them with wet fish ? Shoot 100 of them every hour untill they do ? Nuclear war ? ......... You understand that china owns the US ? :) = The chinese government could sell the US bonds that they have and ruin the US ?

    >The second thing that needs to be done is that the USA -NEEDS- to enact laws that will force PPE equipment (Masks, Ventilators, gowns, hand sanitizer, etc, et.al.) to be manufactured
    here in the USA. That could involve creating an Approved Vendor List for health care providers. The first criteria is that the manufacturers -NEED- to be in the USA.

    EEEEEErrrrrrrm !!! ........ Cough ........ End free trade ? A state planned economy ? State protection for industry ....... isnt that nationalisation ? = ' comunism ' ? :)

    >a gallon regular gas should cost no more .90 cents a gallon.

    No ....... 90 cents to polute the planet ? ...... 90 cents for a gallon of petrol wich causes X $ damage ? ...... Damage to the whole planet just because someone has a swollen ego ? ...... = Get a bycycle .

    >Dat makes perfect cents dat a white intellectual dat reads about racism is more informed on de subject dan a black man dat lives through it

    YES !!! ....... The only reason why i'm not a billionair princess is because people discriminate against me because i'm coloured !!!! ........ And all the other opressed people in the world should compensate us because of that !!!!
     
  12. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    @case-sensitive please quote correctly when posting anything... hard to read your comments.
     
  13. case-sensitive

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    > Correctly

    Did i sin ?

    No thank you . Ballancing balls on my nose or jumping through hoops for others isnt mine . If you dont understand its ok with me .

    Shoot at what i say and not how i say it or me please . Comunication is an attempt by at least two people to exchange information its not about exclusion or verball faschism .
     
  14. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    @case-sensitive

    You quote using this format:
    >First thing to do in order to "fix this", is get the Chinese Government to tell the truth

    Why don't you use xenforo correctly? Look:
    Get it?


    Yes you did. Sinner...

    :tooth:
     
  15. Yen

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    I do not censor people's speech.
    I guess anybody who's reading here 'still' knows how you are thinking about China's govt. I have left back your idea of the origin of COVID-19 and many other posts....

    My job here is (and sometimes I wish it would be not, I would be 'just' a member who can participate in a discussion of a matter which does affect all of us) to keep the thread on topic.

    And therefore I make personal decisions. I am voluntarily here since 2007, do not take or get any donations / money. By doing that I make use of the same 'power' you do...to decide what belongs to something and what not. And when being on a 'foreign domain' like in one's house, a foreign country, or site, I respect the ideas and rules which do apply there. And if I could not I do leave. This is common sense.

    You have an idea of the Chinese's govt and 'the evil' there. You can now think about what you really want 'to change 'or if you just want to get as many people as possible on your side by abusing this thread (which literally would not change any-thing at the Chinese's govts ideology.)

    Hence you won't get here any more opportunities to stir others up. Because so far this is the only noticeable goal...

    And it seems you absolutely do not get why I am arguing here. To safe the world? To be friend of the one and to be enemy of the others? To change your mind?
    To close my eyes not to see what's happening in the world / China?

    My sole interest is being a MDL team member that has some responsibility to get it running, to get things on topic. And to participate in a matter that all affects us as a person with an own opinion and an idea of a forum like MDL, what could be of interest for others...but I do not abuse threads to dump my political ideologies over and over again.

    Don't worry this is the last time I argue with you about that. And you're right...stupid me, why am I doing that at all?!? :rolleyes:


    I try to illustrate 'what' is the difference...

    Imagine you would have the opportunity to safe another one's life.
    Would you hesitate to do it asking yourself exactly the same questions?

    Would it become senseless and you would stop doing it because of those facts?
    I guess not. :)
     
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  16. PointZero

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  17. Bat.1

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  18. zen45

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    well I suppose after this virus is over thru natural selection some of these idiot's with the I don't want to stay at home attitude and hunker down will end up ether in the hospital or the morgue ! I go out once a week for food other then that I work in the garden talk to the neighbors over the fence, it has to be rough for people living in an apartment in a big city not being able to go outside and sit on the grass and play with the kids and dogs and talk to neighbors , im hoping by july most of this is over and just a bad memory ! but I also know that in 5-10 years another virus will come along that will be worse supposedly the going to reopen that wet market in china again , I hope not but then again we need something very bad to happen before we learn the hard way !
     
  19. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Indeed, it's much more difficult for some...

    People with no money, for instance, to speak of... Immobile people, no cars etc. etc.

    People in tiny flats... I have friends who live in 40-50sqm with their 2 young kids... I mean, imagine that, their kids needs to move and exercise, play, develop... I really feel for them... They simply have to go out against the general (confused) orders and exercise aplenty otherwise... ouch!

    Elderly, weak and vulnerable but poor... Frequently, their families are not around... then what?

    The UK gov is utterly butterly, totally unprepared and out if its depth and yet they claim they are great...
     
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  20. Michaela Joy

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    I think that this statement holds true for -ALL- governments. The USA included.
     
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