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  1. case-sensitive

    case-sensitive MDL Expert

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    Its in german from a serious credible news source ---- >

    The vaccination euphoria clouded the critical view: Media, politicians and scientists promised too much in the matter of corona vaccination. And instead of questioning themselves, some insist on their claims

    Pfizer never tested its vaccine for extraneous protection. Right-wing circles speak of a "vaccination lie." Did the media misinform?

    https://www.nzz.ch/feuilleton/medie...mpfungen-wurde-zu-viel-versprochen-ld.1709634
     
  2. Yen

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    #4582 Yen, Nov 1, 2022
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    US Senate: Lab origin most likely.

    "An Analysis of the Origins ofthe COVID-19 Pandemic
    Interim Report"

    https://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/report_an_analysis_of_the_origins_of_covid-19_102722.pdf

    Gorski, you confuse to post 'one-sided' with studies that are now step by step clarifying to 'be' one particular side.
    I was first wrong with the origin, but corrected my personal assessment as soon as I had the studies. (PRRA / furin cleavage site etc. etc.)

    Also I recently posted a study which clearly assigns benefit to the vaccines. (I do not hide them).
    The difference is that they also found that there are still vulnerable groups which the vaccines could not resolve and the person days difference of getting severe was not that huge getting the boosters. Only an additional natural infection did the trick....

    There are 3 medical factors which made the pandemic as it is today and those factors need to be separated: Vaccination, new variants (Omicron) and prior infections.
     
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  3. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Sure, all legitimate issues of public interest, no doubt.

    However, "medical" must include public health measures and many other factors.

    And once again: those huge numbers can not lie... Once you have a pandemic - you must act...
     
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  4. case-sensitive

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    LOL ---- >

    Thats blah blah ............ it rests on two satements wich opose eachother / are the same for eachother .---- >

    >Based on the analysis of the publicly available information, it appears reasonable to conclude that the COVID-19 pandemic was, more likely than not, the result of a research-related incident.

    > there needs to be verifiable evidence
     
  5. case-sensitive

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    @ Italy ---- >

    https://ildolomiti.it/politica/2022...i-carcere-per-chi-organizza-le-feste-illegali

    At the bottom it says ---- >

    As mentioned, among other issues, in addition to that of illegal parties, the Council of Ministers then brought forward to tomorrow (from Dec. 31) the stop of mandatory vaccines for doctors and nurses and thus the gradual reinstatement of unvaccinated personnel, postponing instead to Dec. 30 the Cartabia reform.
     
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    #4587 Palladin, Nov 1, 2022
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    FWIW the November monthly Pfizer Data Dump is available.
    https://phmpt.org/multiple-file-downloads/

    Note: Most of the files have an .XPT extension and that is a data file from SAS.
    SAS Institute provides a nice tool, the SAS Universal Viewer, for exactly this purpose.
    To download this free software, go to https://auth.sas.com/

    Unless you have an SAS account you will be prompted to create a user/password to access the file but it is a simple process and they will ask for you email address and then they will send a confirmation email to create your user/password. Then download and install the SAS Universal Viewer.

    Once you download and install the SaS viewer go to the C:\Program Files directory and look for SASHome, and double click that to access all the sub-directories underneath it. Then select the SASUniversalViewer sub directory and then there should be a 1.5 and in that there will be SAS UniViewer.exe

    Run that and do a File Open and select SAS V5 Transport File and then point it to wherever you extracted the files from the Zip files that you downloaded.
     

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  8. Mr.X

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    yay @gorski yay you are my hero.
     
  9. Yen

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    Yes, sure there are other factors which worked like 'medicine'.
    Those 3 are most important, though. Vaccination and infection have a direct impact on the immune system. They 'prime' it.
    The 3rd one is on the pathogen side. The pathogenicity 'naturally' weakened. This is the natural way for a virus that 'wants' a coexistence to the host.

    Other factors such as NPIs can only slow down waves until those 3 factors mentioned can 'work' / are available.

    There is already evidence that it comes from a lab (is artificial) , but you won't get any proof.
    The proof of a zoonotic spillover at SARS and MERS was not long in coming. But here the adherents had a big mouth at the beginning and did not deliver proof.
    They even did not prove that such a virus has circulated in animals before (prior to the first human cases)!


    Nobody ever would admit a lab leak. But it's the most probable scenario.
     
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  10. gorski

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    Yen, can you do something about this bottom-of-the-barrell BS from X, please?!?
     
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  11. case-sensitive

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    gorski and x ...... reminds me of ...... starsky and hutch ...... but even worse .
     
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  13. case-sensitive

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    Have i understood right ? Your argument is that because science says your a moron it must be a conspiracy because you like yourself ? NO . Its not a conspiracy . YOU ARE WRONG . Your ' argument ' is 100 % paranoia and your trying to use your paranoia as an argument to prove your not paranoid !?!?
     
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    Absolutely

    Had someone got bitten by some animal that carried this virus in a jungle it would have been widely publicized early on, they would have made a point of pin pointing it but yet they have not which tells you this was man made in a lab and set free on humanity.

    And now that they have created a virus with an 80% kill rate here in the states it would not surprise me in the least that some are looking to weaponize it.
     
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  17. gorski

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    Here, knock yourselves out:

     
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  18. Yen

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    This is very interesting.
    (I did synthesis in the past using chlorogenic acid).

    The other article (bottom DOI which costs money) is about dietary polyphenols.
    I can say that particular polyphenols (prodelphinidins) from a certain plant, we researched (the root), are active. This was one of our research work for COVID-19 that has been published.
    I did not post the work in the public here since it contains real names...

    Thanks for the source.
     
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  19. case-sensitive

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    Guys , Yen ........... i think its time to be honest and responsible adults and admit to x that it realy is a conspiracy , that we , and all the other people in the world decided that it would be a good thing if you x covered your face with a mask .......... to protect the public , so we came up with corona just for you ......... and the masks have an added benefit , because its not right to mock the aflickted , so everyone else , being mature , responsible adults , cover our faces with masks so that you cant see us laughing at you ;)
     
  20. Mr.X

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