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  1. vladnil

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    #601 vladnil, Jun 26, 2020
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    My friend, you somehow react violently to this all.
    I’m just looking at countries, for example, Belarus there was no quarantine and all were alive and well, and that’s 10 million people! And no one wears masks and everyone walks the streets.
    You covered the media propaganda. :)

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  2. There's also a third, from Imperial College London, where they've just started human trials recently. Also, in the subject of how long a vaccine's effectiveness would work for, there's "vaccine boosters" being made by GlaxoSmithKline.
     
  3. Yen

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    Violently? :)
    I cannot cover 'the media propaganda', all we are using to get informed is media.
    I try to separate it. I have posted there is NO evidence on masks...but that is not the point.

    It is nice that people in Belarus are fine with their way. From where did you get that info? From media! So you have not being enforced to wear a mask? Why do you complain then?:)

    I see a lot people who disinfect all their surfaces....Why? It is useless. There is no smear infection. Do I complain about propaganda? No, they do not know it better, as long as I can apply what I think what's right I am fine.
    I have to wear a mask at supermarkets and public transports. Their rules...propaganda? LOL..no...their rules I have to comply or let it go and order online / drive my own car...

    There are a lot, but only 2 (AFAIK will reach Phase III on July).

    The VFA is listing 153 test vaccines all together (date 24/06/2020) I check there frequently...:)
     
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    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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  5. vladnil

    vladnil MDL Senior Member

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    Although I disagree with your view of the situation in the created problem with the virus!
    But still, I respect people like you because they have a zeal for knowledge.
    You are well done!
    It’s better to move somewhere than just stand still and have nothing to do.
     
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  6. Mr.X

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    #606 Mr.X, Jun 27, 2020
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    This old man must be a madman or senile, at least.



    I mean how could I distrust GlaxoSmithKline after what they did to me and thousands more with their "sweet candies" aka benzodiazepines. They are angels came from heaven to cure and save us all /sarcastic
     
  7. MS_User

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    #607 MS_User, Jun 28, 2020
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    this is nothing new big pharma rolls out dangerous drugs all the time and pay out millions in law sues and of course their powerful lobbyist bribe our politicians doctors and every other person or institute that will help them in their massive profit agenda....and as for a true covid19 vaccine it mite be 10 years away or even never.
     
  8. Mr.X

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    I know it's nothing new. Just stating and remembering the fact so people don't accept governments rule to use the darn muzzle.
     
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  10. Yen

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    If the only way to beat COVID-19 would be 'herd immunity' then the swedish way is not worse than others...
    The higher mortality rates they have now is just a reflection of future rates others would have to expect.
    This is reasoned by the fact that each individual has an individual reaction on COVID-19 regardless of the 'wave' it would happen...

    But the sooner there will be a 'cure' the more probable it is that the swedish lead at mortality rate is persisting.
     
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  12. MS_User

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    Crap :oops: Bat forgot to mention lobo and lobo 7-11 on corner o_O
     
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  14. gorski

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    No. Yen, I disagree - "herd immunity" is not the way forward. Research is. We are not animals, we have science, technology and used properly... well, we are innovative, creative...

    Hence, they should have acted differently and saved the lives they lost needlessly, thanx to the "ideas" I felt on my own skin when I lived there, as the journalist is spot on...
     
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  15. Mr.X

    Mr.X MDL Guru

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    And we have greedy men who appropriate science and technology for they own benefit.
     
  16. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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  17. Yen

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    #617 Yen, Jun 30, 2020
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    Yes, sure...
    That's why I have posted IF... (If the only way to beat COVID-19 would be 'herd immunity' then..)

    Anyway an important point is....'where' has the government to restrict and 'where' should they rely on own maturity and responsibility of the citizens.
    (Information instead of regulation)...
    The Infection Protection Act is the way that it restricts personal freedom and basic human rights. It has to be applied with caution.

    Germany did it right at the beginning....
    The argument for the restrictions had been to control the infection rate in that way that the medical capacities are guaranteed anytime.
    But later when we saw that the capacities were far enough and the rate decreased they should have loosen the restrictions in time....
     
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