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Agree with every single point you numbered. We're in the same side of a real scientific scrutiny and its outcomes.

However, I am a step beyond you, I'm in the realm of conspiracies. There's an ongoing conspiracy vs. humanity and there's evidence quite hard to clear it up to see. Because they are not natural phenomenon suchlike electricity which you need to study and over time you unveil its mysteries unlike a conspiracy made by an intelligence (human) trying to erase its tracks so we can't get evidence easily.

 

Yen ...... it seems to me your complaining about your inability to understand and deal with statistics ?

OR ...... what are you actualy saying ? Whats the point ? Wo willst du hinaus ? All i see is an avalanch of words .

 

Me in conspiranoid mode:

Corona sanitary measures > to create extreme fear of the death.

Lockdown > to destroy economies around the world.

Fear + poverty:
governments borrow money to IMF (immense debt) > vaccine (to save people's lives, allegedly)

 

I really have no other words for this but: who would you sacrifice on the altar of profit making?

Demonic Scummings (Bo-Jo's adviser) immediately said "tough titties" for old folk in retirement/old people's/care homes...

It was "nothing to be alarmed by", we carry on towards herd immunity, as if we are cattle and anyone in the way - good riddance. "Collateral damage" is yet another expression, just some big words, behind which so many little lives can just "elegantly" vanish into thin air...

So, please, tell me: how do you stand with this little problem?!? Directly, no BS! Lock-downs were everywhere (except Sweden and even their public health policy architects said it should have been done differently, that they could have saved many lives) and they were effective, as we can all see, given the fact that numbers are again on the rise and sharply so, in some places rather sharply, so...WTH???

Am I the only one to call a glaringly obvious, exhibitionist emperor - naked?

 

This is torture

 

Amazing conference

 

Closing down the Global Economy as a means to combating the Virus. That's what they want us to believe. If the public had been informed that Covid-19 is “similar to Influenza”, the fear campaign would have fallen flat...
https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-...fear-campaign-has-no-scientific-basis/5722566

 

Found data for 1918 Spanish Flu!
Guys, this is all a fake about millions who died.
Take the newspapers from the 1918 archives, won't you see a lot of corpses there?
All media outlets rely on only one newspaper, in which there was a note about millions of dead!
It was the yellow press!
In 1920, the Spanish flu in Brazil fell ill with 250 thousand deaths of 9 people.
Read the old press (newspapers), you will simply be surprised how you are all deceived and held for Lakhov (idiots)
Here's the fun part in this situation.
You write to people, give links to evidence about Covid19, that this is all hyped up and is not a reality, that masks are just business and have nothing to do with health!
And no one cares about it?
But if some nonsense appears on Twitter or Telegram (let's go out, someone was beaten or killed), people flee and massive demonstrations gather. Moreover, without even understanding the situation, who is right and who is wrong - people do not care, the main thing is that there is some kind of movement!
Conclusion 80% of people is a complete illiterate s**t !!!

Paradox?

 

Facts, as opposed to tons of BS:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

 

tons of bs is right...
one wonders how all those self-appointed experts and journalists manage to make a living...

 

@Evil idiots

>Me in conspiranoid mode: Corona sanitary measures > to create extreme fear of the death. Lockdown > to destroy economies around the world. Fear + poverty: governments borrow money to IMF (immense debt) > vaccine (to save people's lives, allegedly)

>Closing down the Global Economy as a means to combating the Virus. That's what they want us to believe. If the public had been informed that Covid-19 is “similar to Influenza”, the fear campaign would have fallen flat...

= All the governments and the press in the world are involved in an international conspiracy .

>Found data for 1918 Spanish Flu!

You say the whole incident was a press fake and you use the press to ' prove ' it = The medical , historical and political records of the world are all fakes ?

>tons of bs is right... one wonders how all those self-appointed experts and journalists manage to make a living...

You complain about yourself ?

 

well, lets have a look at the facts, for a change..
[ this a ’serious discussion’, after all..]
fact is; that spanish flue left whole populations
of villages very dead..and there are cold and
hard gravestones to prove it. so;not a hoax at all.

but now lets take a look at our good, well-intending
authorities, and their methods.allow me to illustrate
those from a story from the news; the facts;
-a girl gets a positive result from some covid test in northern
spain.
-instead of locking herself up in a house, like a good girl
should, she goes surfing.outside, in the surf. a person
would have to get very intimate with her to manage to
catch even a cold from her. [ not very practical while
she is on a surfboard between wind and water.]
-some well-intending person, [a jealous hubby?] notifies
the equally well-intending authorities. those send
well-intending cops to the beach in well-intended
protective clothing [ they would be very irresponsible
authoroties indeed if they let their employees run the slightest
risk,of course..]
-those cops handcuff her, and drag her out of the
water. so now she is under arrest and accused of
’grave disobedience’.

there is a moral to this kinky story; our good, well-intending
authorities are just as brainless as those experts and journalists.
q.e.d.
[and complaining?? who?? me?? just an old innocent grey walrus,lol.]

 

Thank you Yen . The things that concern me are ...... ignorant people spreading and cultivating confusion ....... and .......... Untill we have reliable statistics ....... and statistical comparisons and analysis we're just going round in circles ......... wich are being exploited by mentaly ill people , evil people , stupid people and vested interests .

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A month ago today one of my best friends Rob died . He was taken into a british national death service hospital on friday , given oxygen and died the following tuesday . The first diagnosis was pneumonia . We're waiting for the results of the autopsy . He was burnt last tuesday .

He wasnt allowed any visitors in hospital . He died alone . The typical little british orwellian dickensian dads army chaos prevented me and some of his kids and grand kids from going to the funeral . Theres nowhere to get reliable travel info and the train prices have gone up 50 - 100 % . Only 30 people were allowed to go to the funeral .

To be treated as if we are expendable toxic waste and burnt . To be ill ........ and be rejected by a society ....... and be put into ' quarantene ' ......... = to be dehumanised .......... to be put in a sealed room to die .

The british national health service . The pride of the british people . The only part of the government that the british people trust . That has been hollowed out by 40 years of austerity for the people that cant aford it and is now only an alibi health service wich manages deaths .

And the rich get buryed and the poor get burnt ......... like the industrial waste that they are .

 

very sad to lose a friend in this way. condolences.

 

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Imagine ...... YOU ...... DIEING ...... NOW ...... sudenly ...... out of the blue ...... you wake up in the morning , cough and feel ill , weak and cant breath properly ........ the next day an abulance comes ....... and its like being taken prisoner ...... other people take control of your life and make decisions for you ....... you loose all privacy and dignity ...... other people ...... strangers ...... wash you and wipe your arse for you ......... your not god in your own paradise game any more posting calous crap on a forum for ' fun' ......... you experience REAL REALITY .......... that you cant change or get away from ........ your weak ...... and frightened ........ and helpless ...... and ALONE ......fighting for breath ...... like drowning for days ....... and people you dont know rushing round treating you like a piece of steak in a butchers window .

And some s**t tells you and your family ...... its all a hoax ...... a conspiracy ......... = his ' logic ' is ....... that because he doesnt understand there is nothing to understand ....... and the people that say that they understand are realy trying to trick him ...... and he shows you absolutely sick videos ........ and the ramblings of confused people . And enjoys it . And celebrates himself .

 

That is one helluva sad story to tell.... One can't but feel sadness and emptiness when confronted with something like that!

And then anger as well! It brings legitimate Qs to the fore: who deliberates and how, under which conditions etc.

But that is a separate set of issues - yes, they are connected but to talk through any of them properly one has to be able to not mix them all into the same bowl at once because one gets a jumble of feelings and all sorts included...

Must go get my kids from school - and hope we all don't catch it somehow...

 

Russian doctors will be able to provide medical care to patients even without their consent. And no matter the design, They said that you are sick with covid-19, you deny you are sick in a psychiatric hospital
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On the territory of the USSR, any vaccine was produced for 10 years in several stages.
1) Basic research (carried out in the laboratory, creating different forms of the drug).
2) Preclinical studies (testing on cell cultures and animals).
3) Clinical studies (in human volunteers, in several stages, placebo control).
4) Control after the release of the drug (accumulation of statistics on side effects, etc.)

 

I agree with you, on this case, Dr. Sucharit. But any scientist, reputable or not, can false or twist scientific evidence/data for specific goals.